Alonso's Crash

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- - - BREAKING NEWS - - - -
'I just wanted to thank all the fans for their support, and reassure them I am ok.', the Spaniard said in a phone interview.
'I don't remember exactly what happened, but the car was fine, I had just completed a lap and I had slowed down to cool the tires, then suddenly I found myself at the edge of the track.'
'Obviously, doctors wanted to run checks and take all precautions due to my history with back problems.'
'They told me it was ok to leave the hospital last night but I was welcome to stay a few more days if I wanted to run further checks.'
'Honestly, since it doesn't look like we will be aiming to be anywhere near the podium with that car I thought I'd stay and skip the last test. I'm having so much fun reading all the stuff people write in forums about my accident, especially those guys at F1technical who have filled about 20 pages with all possible, impossible and improbable conspiracy theories one could ever imagine. I'm having such a blast. Thank you guys. Love you all. Peace out. Adios.'


Sorry. I couldn't resist.
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andartop wrote:- - - BREAKING NEWS - - - -
'I just wanted to thank all the fans for their support, and reassure them I am ok.', the Spaniard said in a phone interview.
'I don't remember exactly what happened, but the car was fine, I had just completed a lap and I had slowed down to cool the tires, then suddenly I found myself at the edge of the track.'
'Obviously, doctors wanted to run checks and take all precautions due to my history with back problems.'
'They told me it was ok to leave the hospital last night but I was welcome to stay a few more days if I wanted to run further checks.'
'Honestly, since it doesn't look like we will be aiming to be anywhere near the podium with that car I thought I'd stay and skip the last test. I'm having so much fun reading all the stuff people write in forums about my accident, especially those guys at F1technical who have filled about 20 pages with all possible, impossible and improbable conspiracy theories one could ever imagine. I'm having such a blast. Thank you guys. Love you all. Peace out. Adios.'


Sorry. I couldn't resist.
You have just taken words out of my mouth

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Why the wind will be worse on a car that is slow than for a fast car?

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Because downforce goes with v2, and that speed is relative to the air, not to the ground. A tail wind of half the car's speed (extreme example) will cut the downforce to a quarter.
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F Alonso wrote:especially those guys at F1technical who have filled about 20 pages with all possible, impossible and improbable conspiracy theories one could ever imagine.
Oh Fernando you let the cat out if the bag, it's only 19 pages. Denying the loss of one page is clear demonstration of a cover up. What secret on page 20 needs to be hidden from us?

Ps I blame mercury poisoning for some of the ideas in this thread, it leaked out of our Swedish suspension.

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Gaara wrote:Why the wind will be worse on a car that is slow than for a fast car?
It's the same reason why you can stand in front of a car at 1kph and stop it, but would struggle to stop a car at 5kph, and a car at 100kph would barely deviate from its path when it flattens you.

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Nobody mentioned theory that Alonso maybe got scared when he saw Vettel behind him. :D

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One of the weirdest incidents in memory.

Something funny about his third night in hospital. That picture of him smiling on the bed, looked like a sick smile to me.

Your mind automatically goes to the worst with these things, I hope the big man is ok

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andartop wrote:- - - BREAKING NEWS - - - -
'I just wanted to thank all the fans for their support, and reassure them I am ok.', the Spaniard said in a phone interview.
'I don't remember exactly what happened, but the car was fine, I had just completed a lap and I had slowed down to cool the tires, then suddenly I found myself at the edge of the track.'
'Obviously, doctors wanted to run checks and take all precautions due to my history with back problems.'
'They told me it was ok to leave the hospital last night but I was welcome to stay a few more days if I wanted to run further checks.'
'Honestly, since it doesn't look like we will be aiming to be anywhere near the podium with that car I thought I'd stay and skip the last test. I'm having so much fun reading all the stuff people write in forums about my accident, especially those guys at F1technical who have filled about 20 pages with all possible, impossible and improbable conspiracy theories one could ever imagine. I'm having such a blast. Thank you guys. Love you all. Peace out. Adios.'


Sorry. I couldn't resist.
Best post of the whole thread............ and the most accurate :wink:

radosav
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Look at the head movement from Alo's crash from Monaco 2010. It is quite hard impact on head and neck muscles.

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Yeah. Sure.

"A wind gust".

Give me a break. The man is spending another night in hospital. :roll:
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Richard wrote:
Gaara wrote:Why the wind will be worse on a car that is slow than for a fast car?
It's the same reason why you can stand in front of a car at 1kph and stop it, but would struggle to stop a car at 5kph, and a car at 100kph would barely deviate from its path when it flattens you.
And who would know better :D
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Found this on another forum! ---
'' Während die Fans noch immer darüber diskutieren, ob die McLaren-Windstosstheorie stimme, sagt der italienische Formel-1-Journalist Leo Turrini: «Als vor bald zwanzig Jahren Eddie Irvine und Michael Schumacher für Ferrari fuhren, sassen wir mit Eddie im Fahrerlager von Barcelona zusammen und er sprach davon, dass es ihn in Kurve 3 fast von der Bahn geweht habe. Wir machten dann einige Witze, von wegen – ah, soso, und als nächstes nimmst du am America’s Cup teil, gell? Da kam Michael Schumacher daher und hat genau das Gleiche erzählt. Es ist also durchaus plausibel, was McLaren zum Unfall erklärt hat.»

"Leo Turrini was sitting with Eddie Irvine nearly 20 years ago in Barca, when Eddie told him that wind had nearly taken him off track at turn 3. Leo and Eddie were then joking that he was planning to next participate in the America's Cup, when Michael Schumacher appeared and said, that he was nearly blown off course at turn 3 by a gust of wind."

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Alonso did not crash because of wind. Can someone please explain the black long mark found prior to the impact with the wall. Multiple days in intensive care!! The long black mark on the track which is not from breaking proves he was tasered by the car. Not a team I would want to drive for. The black mark on track is being reported By rai.

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Manoah2u wrote:no one said it didn't either. you fail to understand that wind plays a big role in vehicle direction. a big gush of wind does in no way cause downforce to drop at all. downforce remains the same, the car still 'slices' through the same air. however, a gush of wind causes additional pressure on the vehicle, which WILL have effect.
Not true. The amount of downforce the wing generates is 100% dependent on the air speed of the wing (note, not the ground speed of the car). A gust of wind from behind reduces the airspeed of the wing, and in doing so reduces the downforce produced substantially.
which flawed assumption? there is zero information on wind direction. I used side wind to show how much wind effects the vehicle.
The point is that "from the side" is the neutral case which doesn't affect air-speed of the wings. From the rear and from the front does affect airspeed.
a car running at 90mph does not lose any downforce at all thanks to a wind, thus loses no grip either.
Yes, it does. A car running at 90mph ground speed, with a 30mph tailwind has a 60mph airspeed, and because of that loses 56% of its downforce compared to a car running at 90mph in still air, or with wind from the side.