2015 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, 03-05 July

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Interesting to see that Verstappen's STR10 is is able to match the Mercedes and Ferrari powered cars with his top speed.

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Spoutnik wrote:Lewis need to find the good settings/setup, he had some understeer trought the fast curve, then the Merc of Rosberg was really neutral, good balance, stable, but little bit less top speed. I think Lewis on one lap can outperform Rosberg obviously but in race pace he's out, and with this overall pace the Ferrari can eat him. (If I refer only on the FP1/2)

About the challenge for the podium let's be honest, maybe maybe the Red Bull can outperform the Ferrari on a hot lap but in race pace this is over, furthermore the Red Bull boys need to lif and coast, and save some fuel, more than the Ferrari. And on race pace I think the Toro Rosso outperform the Red Bull. The challenge of the race will be Fi vs Williams.

EDIT : So inapprehensible .. http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/12433 ... p-practice
Merc are always 0.4 seconds quicker in the race than they are in practise long runs. They're not vulnerable here.

In terms of Hamilton, in his interview he seemed very pleased. We never really saw what happened on his medium run but I don't think he's too worried. He was the faster driver overall on the hard tyres I would say, it's just he needs to have a better setup for the mediums. We've seen this bluff before from him. Hamilton likes scruffy practise sessions and is usually sorted by qualifying.

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J0rd4n wrote:
Spoutnik wrote:Lewis need to find the good settings/setup, he had some understeer trought the fast curve, then the Merc of Rosberg was really neutral, good balance, stable, but little bit less top speed. I think Lewis on one lap can outperform Rosberg obviously but in race pace he's out, and with this overall pace the Ferrari can eat him. (If I refer only on the FP1/2)

About the challenge for the podium let's be honest, maybe maybe the Red Bull can outperform the Ferrari on a hot lap but in race pace this is over, furthermore the Red Bull boys need to lif and coast, and save some fuel, more than the Ferrari. And on race pace I think the Toro Rosso outperform the Red Bull. The challenge of the race will be Fi vs Williams.

EDIT : So inapprehensible .. http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/12433 ... p-practice
Merc are always 0.4 seconds quicker in the race than they are in practise long runs. They're not vulnerable here.

In terms of Hamilton, in his interview he seemed very pleased. We never really saw what happened on his medium run but I don't think he's too worried. He was the faster driver overall on the hard tyres I would say, it's just he needs to have a better setup for the mediums. We've seen this bluff before from him. Hamilton likes scruffy practise sessions and is usually sorted by qualifying.
He's traditionally faster on the harder tyre. Will wait until FP3 to make another judgement on that.
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J0rd4n wrote:
Spoutnik wrote:Lewis need to find the good settings/setup, he had some understeer trought the fast curve, then the Merc of Rosberg was really neutral, good balance, stable, but little bit less top speed. I think Lewis on one lap can outperform Rosberg obviously but in race pace he's out, and with this overall pace the Ferrari can eat him. (If I refer only on the FP1/2)

About the challenge for the podium let's be honest, maybe maybe the Red Bull can outperform the Ferrari on a hot lap but in race pace this is over, furthermore the Red Bull boys need to lif and coast, and save some fuel, more than the Ferrari. And on race pace I think the Toro Rosso outperform the Red Bull. The challenge of the race will be Fi vs Williams.

EDIT : So inapprehensible .. http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/12433 ... p-practice
Merc are always 0.4 seconds quicker in the race than they are in practise long runs. They're not vulnerable here.

In terms of Hamilton, in his interview he seemed very pleased. We never really saw what happened on his medium run but I don't think he's too worried. He was the faster driver overall on the hard tyres I would say, it's just he needs to have a better setup for the mediums. We've seen this bluff before from him. Hamilton likes scruffy practise sessions and is usually sorted by qualifying.
In a bit colder condition, but I think Ferrari will not take any risk they played clearly the second place in the WCC.
So if it was a bluff, well played because at the radio he was really angry and his time show that.
But we will see tomorow the most important is to get the pole !

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I don't agree. On a track like this, I think race pace is more important than pole. If he's quicker over the long-run there's no reason why he wont be able to overtake. People seem to be under the illusion that pole is extra important this year but we've not seen any evidence that suggests Lewis can't overtake Nico on track, vice versa.

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J0rd4n wrote:I don't agree. On a track like this, I think race pace is more important than pole. If he's quicker over the long-run there's no reason why he wont be able to overtake. People seem to be under the illusion that pole is extra important this year but we've not seen any evidence that suggests Lewis can't overtake Nico on track, vice versa.
I don't agree with you also, at the moment, firstly because the race Sundy will be on one stop only what I mean ? Only one undercut possibility. Also this year we had how many overtakes between the top runner ?
Last year Lewis do that, at many times, the most impressive for me has been the race at Austin when the gap was of 3 sec and he overtake him 4 laps after, but he had a significal pace advantage.
This year I think the tires deg when you follow a car is bigger and on a track with so much high speed corner he'll has only 5 laps to overtakes him I think.
But hopefully has a LH fan I hope I'm wrong.

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Hamilton looked glum on the Sky interview I saw. Again given fuel limitations race pace will be in the 1:38's - 1:39's at the start and work their way down to 1:36 - 1:37's toward the end, we might see a 34 or 35 if someone decides to do a 12 lap glory run on options towards the end. I'm expecting a two stopper for most teams, although you don't really lose much in the pit stop so a 3 stopper is possible. The obvious strategy will be to push like mad on the first stint, then leaning on the tires while saving fuel in the second, only to go on a flat out glory run on the primes at the end.
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Spoutnik wrote:
J0rd4n wrote:I don't agree. On a track like this, I think race pace is more important than pole. If he's quicker over the long-run there's no reason why he wont be able to overtake. People seem to be under the illusion that pole is extra important this year but we've not seen any evidence that suggests Lewis can't overtake Nico on track, vice versa.
I don't agree with you also, at the moment, firstly because the race Sundy will be on one stop only what I mean ? Only one undercut possibility. Also this year we had how many overtakes between the top runner ?
Last year Lewis do that, at many times, the most impressive for me has been the race at Austin when the gap was of 3 sec and he overtake him 4 laps after, but he had a significal pace advantage.
This year I think the tires deg when you follow a car is bigger and on a track with so much high speed corner he'll has only 5 laps to overtakes him I think.
But hopefully has a LH fan I hope I'm wrong.
I seriously doubt anyone will be able to do a one stop any more than they could in Spain or Malaysia.
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Spoutnik wrote:
J0rd4n wrote:I don't agree. On a track like this, I think race pace is more important than pole. If he's quicker over the long-run there's no reason why he wont be able to overtake. People seem to be under the illusion that pole is extra important this year but we've not seen any evidence that suggests Lewis can't overtake Nico on track, vice versa.
I don't agree with you also, at the moment, firstly because the race Sundy will be on one stop only what I mean ? Only one undercut possibility. Also this year we had how many overtakes between the top runner ?
Last year Lewis do that, at many times, the most impressive for me has been the race at Austin when the gap was of 3 sec and he overtake him 4 laps after, but he had a significal pace advantage.
This year I think the tires deg when you follow a car is bigger and on a track with so much high speed corner he'll has only 5 laps to overtakes him I think.
But hopefully has a LH fan I hope I'm wrong.
Lewis didn't use the undercut frequently last year, so I don't agree on the first point. There is no proof to suggest that tyre degradation is worse when you follow a car. The only driver I've heard complain about it is Nico in China. But we never saw him overtake in 2014 either.

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godlameroso wrote:
Spoutnik wrote:
J0rd4n wrote:I don't agree. On a track like this, I think race pace is more important than pole. If he's quicker over the long-run there's no reason why he wont be able to overtake. People seem to be under the illusion that pole is extra important this year but we've not seen any evidence that suggests Lewis can't overtake Nico on track, vice versa.
I don't agree with you also, at the moment, firstly because the race Sundy will be on one stop only what I mean ? Only one undercut possibility. Also this year we had how many overtakes between the top runner ?
Last year Lewis do that, at many times, the most impressive for me has been the race at Austin when the gap was of 3 sec and he overtake him 4 laps after, but he had a significal pace advantage.
This year I think the tires deg when you follow a car is bigger and on a track with so much high speed corner he'll has only 5 laps to overtakes him I think.
But hopefully has a LH fan I hope I'm wrong.
I seriously doubt anyone will be able to do a one stop any more than they could in Spain or Malaysia.
Idk they said that on French TV and last year Lewis do 2 stops for the security after the retirement of Nico but he can go to the end and do a 1 stop.
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Spoutnik wrote:
J0rd4n wrote:I don't agree. On a track like this, I think race pace is more important than pole. If he's quicker over the long-run there's no reason why he wont be able to overtake. People seem to be under the illusion that pole is extra important this year but we've not seen any evidence that suggests Lewis can't overtake Nico on track, vice versa.
I don't agree with you also, at the moment, firstly because the race Sundy will be on one stop only what I mean ? Only one undercut possibility. Also this year we had how many overtakes between the top runner ?
Last year Lewis do that, at many times, the most impressive for me has been the race at Austin when the gap was of 3 sec and he overtake him 4 laps after, but he had a significal pace advantage.
This year I think the tires deg when you follow a car is bigger and on a track with so much high speed corner he'll has only 5 laps to overtakes him I think.
But hopefully has a LH fan I hope I'm wrong.
Lewis didn't use the undercut frequently last year, so I don't agree on the first point. There is no proof to suggest that tyre degradation is worse when you follow a car. The only driver I've heard complain about it is Nico in China. But we never saw him overtake in 2014 either.
That's why I say that, he don't use that frequently last year but he use it a bit more this year because it's more difficult to overtake I thinK
Nico in China, Lewis in Spain "he said it's impossible to overtake Vettel on the track", and after i've never heard anything.

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Spain and here are completely different tracks. Overtaking has always been hard on that circuit. Where has Lewis used the undercut this year? He hasn't

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J0rd4n wrote:Spain and here are completely different tracks. Overtaking has always been hard on that circuit. Where has Lewis used the undercut this year? He hasn't
We will see tomorow for the overtaking but i'm not optimistic.
He used a big undercut in Spain to pass Vettel.
And Rosberg/Vettel frequently try to use it I think if he can he will use it.

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Spoutnik wrote:
J0rd4n wrote:Spain and here are completely different tracks. Overtaking has always been hard on that circuit. Where has Lewis used the undercut this year? He hasn't
We will see tomorow for the overtaking but i'm not optimistic.
He used a big undercut in Spain to pass Vettel.
And Rosberg/Vettel frequently try to use it I think if he can he will use it.
Spain isn't relevant though, because overtaking is near impossible there anyway.

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We had some big lightning storms last night - not sure how much rain fell at Silverstone but it might have made the track a little greener before FP3 this morning.

Forecast currently suggests possibility of showers in the last half of the race. Temperatures won't be anything special.
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Hamilton looks more comfortable already. Be interesting to see if that carries over to the medium tyres.