Scuderia Ferrari SF16-H

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C Plinius Secundus
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The "lenght discussion" is becoming rather juvenile. The last time I saw a group of guys discussing about which "machine" was longer, we were all teenage boys at school :)

Soon there'll be data about wheelbase, lenght, etc. In the meantime, if someone insists in comparing images in an attempt to estimate the wheelbase, etc, I'd suggest you to use the wheel reem as a constant parameter: 13", since the shape of the tyres varies slightly from one season to another (different side structure), and we don't know the pressure they use for the picture sessions .

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kreuzass wrote:My thoughts why ferrari has changed the design of the nose and the height of the front of the monocoque:
They do not need the downforce on the front axel anymore which was created (additionally to the downforce created by the front wing) by the long flat nose... as part of changing the front suspension and the mass centre of the car.
No.The design of the Nose and the slimmer coke bottle shape with the defined undercut at the rear suspension were all designed to allow more air to flow to the back of the car specifically over the diffuser. the more air flowing over the top of the diffuser the more efficient the diffuser becomes . This is downforce with minimal drag, in addition the diffuser provides at least half the downforce of an F1 car.
the nose style that ferrari chose has its benefits, not only does it allow more air through to the rear of the car but the fact that the thumb nose also extends backwards before cutting off is to better control airflow beneath the nose.
the SF16-H should create much more downforce than the SF15-T via the diffuser alone .remains to be seen on track though.

kreuzass
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Are we talking past each other? Not sure at the moment.

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kreuzass wrote:Are we talking past each other? Not sure at the moment.
no we are not, you said that Ferrari changed the nose because they didnt need downforce at the front of the car anymore and because of the mass centre of the car. I explained to you why the nose was changed and how that change affects the rest of the car.
the long nose that the SF15-T had produced little or no downforce in my opinion.The top of the entire nose was convex to allow air to flow around it to get to the back of the car

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Now i realise what you mean. Had in mind that the top of the nose was completely flat and not slightly curved. You are right. My fault.

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Motorsport.com Matt Somerfield has teed up with Giorgio Piola to delve further into the SF16-H

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/tech- ... ar-674606/

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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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Now important question. Did they manage to do full prono day without glitches?

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Juzh
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bonjon1979 wrote:The car is going to be + or - 20cm to last year so what the hell does it matter anyway.
20 cm is huge. Or did you mean mm.

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..Especially when one of your drivers can't win races in an understeering car.
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f1316
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Image seems to be gone from Twitter!

But yeah, very interested to see how they get on today.

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kreuzass wrote:
gilgen wrote:... because it is something that does not matter. all the cars are built to the rules and there will always be slight differences in measurements. but it will not make any difference in performance!
What? Of course it does.
please explain how.

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Finishing races is important, but racing is more important.

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Finishing races is important, but racing is more important.

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diffuser already broken :mrgreen:
Finishing races is important, but racing is more important.