2016 F1 Spanish Grand Prix

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Sonador
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Tom145145 wrote:
Sorry I replied to the wrong post...I was trying to make the point that most people can't be objective. I managed to do the opposite #-o
#-o moment, sometimes that happens.

:D

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SR71
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Re: can hamilton be WDC in 2016 if rosberg doesn't have problems ?

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Lewis lost the lead when he had a HP advantage right?

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SR71
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Any chance Kimi played the gentlemen today and let History be the real winner of the race?

Just saying....

i70q7m7ghw
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If it hasn't already been posted this analysis by Ant Davidson pretty much explains the Rosberg/Hamilton incident:-
http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/24098/ ... h-analysed

Rosberg wasn't paying full attention because he was busy changing settings on the steering wheel.

NL_Fer
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Yurasyk wrote:What a fabulous f*ck up of Ferrari strategists. I am just speechless.
It was an agressive undercut on Ricciardo, which worked.

They just didn't think Max and Kimi would keep up speed till that part of the race.

f1316
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Once the two Mercedes were gone, the Ferrari was by far the fastest car in the race - that's something, I suppose , but not winning the race from there (let alone getting a one-two which I was expecting) is not good enough.

Anyway, good race from verstappen -he won a race when three people behind were quicker and in many ways that's what the greats do.

mika vs michael
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F1 need this kind of drama...the hamilton v. rosberg clash reminded me of the senna v. prost era. Personally I don't care whose fault it is and if there is actually any kind of fault. The stewards claimed it to be a racing incident and it should be...Let the battle ignite. MAybe Nico's "wrong setting" was a setting that would give him some kind of advantage in the start and then had to change it so that he prevents the harvesting part. Who knows...Hamilton rushed into the gap in senna style. Drama on the first lap and then 66 laps where you could not predict the winner. We need more of this.
and a record breaking win for Verstappen. A new star emerging...
"It is necessary to relax your muscles when you can. Relaxing your brain is fatal." Stirling Moss

I tried this and I had understeer, I tried that and I had oversteer, at the end of the corner I just run out of talent

Yurasyk
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NL_Fer wrote:It was an agressive undercut on Ricciardo, which worked.
They just didn't think Max and Kimi would keep up speed till that part of the race.
It was a stupidiest move in the world to having 3 laps fresher tyres hope for significant pace advantage in th finish.
Riccardo did a good pit sot and had enough pace to reach Verstappen. If Vet did that (1-2 lap before Ric) he undoubtedly fought for the win with much fresher tyres.

domh245
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Difficult to say as there isn't any footage of the start from behind the 2 mercs that I can see (to determine if the rain light was flashing), but I don't think the PU was harvesting then. If Nico did have a HP disadvantage off of the line through a harvesting ERS, he'd have been swamped by the top half of the grid.

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Sonador wrote:
giantfan10 wrote:After listening to Ricciardo after the race this race was a gift to max from red bull...Ricciardo asked a valid question why would you make the leading driver do a 3 stop race and force him to have to pass faster cars on track when its next to impossible to pass in spain???
He doesnt look like a happy camper
Just like Vettel (in2014), Ricciardo asked a valid question in that respect.
For me it is a bit of a flashback ....

:mrgreen:
+1. I remember at least one rase when strategists made a Ric in front of Vet - it was Canada. Ric got a win there.

CHT
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This race is a good reminded of just how much damage merc domination has done to the sport. Kudos to RBR again for their young driver program.

ripper
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What happened between the two mercs drivers raises a question: is it ok that a driver has to change 232 settings per laps while driving at 300 km/h and defending from another car (while nursing tyres and saving fuel)?

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domh245 wrote:Difficult to say as there isn't any footage of the start from behind the 2 mercs that I can see (to determine if the rain light was flashing), but I don't think the PU was harvesting then. If Nico did have a HP disadvantage off of the line through a harvesting ERS, he'd have been swamped by the top half of the grid.
There is footage from behind. You can see Rosbergs rain light flashing from Hamilton's and Ricciardos(?) onboard at the end of the corner. It was not flashing at the start.

Restomaniac
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Hi guys new user here.
Something struck me on the footage today.
When looking from the shot looking down the small straight just before turn 3 it's noticeable just how far over Rosberg actually is . No one else is anywhere near that far to the right even those trying/defending overtakes. At one point as Hamilton ends up being a passenger Rosberg is about 1 tyre width from being on the grass himself. Now if that's the normal line why is nobody else over there?

Also for those saying Hamilton should have backed out of it. Fine that's a valid point until you factor in just how slow Rosberg was going at that point. If Hamilton backed out and totally compromised himself he is running a real risk of a redbull steaming up within a corner or 2.
That would mean that Rosberg makes a mistake in engine mode and yet he gets a net gain of not only retaining his place but possibly costing his teammate second.

Gaz.
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Restomaniac wrote:Hi guys new user here.
Something struck me on the footage today.
When looking from the shot looking down the small straight just before turn 3 it's noticeable just how far over Rosberg actually is . No one else is anywhere near that far to the right even those trying/defending overtakes. At one point as Hamilton ends up being a passenger Rosberg is about 1 tyre width from being on the grass himself. Now if that's the normal line why is nobody else over there?

Also for those saying Hamilton should have backed out of it. Fine that's a valid point until you factor in just how slow Rosberg was going at that point. If Hamilton backed out and totally compromised himself he is running a real risk of a redbull steaming up within a corner or 2.
That would mean that Rosberg makes a mistake in engine mode and yet he gets a net gain of not only retaining his place but possibly costing his teammate second.

You make some interesting points.

http://s32.postimg.org/3u6aojoqc/SPAIN1.jpg
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