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Nico Rosberg has been hit with a 10-second penalty after the stewards decided in a lengthy meeting that the driver in question received radio messages from his team that were in breach of F1's new regulations that require a driver to drive his car 'alone and unaided'
Rosberg has always been one of the worst driver under wet condition, even in qualifying (Malaysia 15) Vettel with less downforce outperformed him. He's been outperformed by Hamilton in qualy under rain in Australia, China 2014. We will not even talk about the rape of Hamilton against him in Suzuka 2014 in 1v1 race.iotar__ wrote:Not surprising you are wrong and cannot back up your theories, mindlessly attacking drivers which is accepted and common behaviour here as long as targets are right. Your level of F1 knowledge makes you suitable candidate for Sky commentator.GPR-A wrote:Which is not surprising. Most drivers on the grid are better racers in wet than Rosberg.
- Silverstone and USA '15 he was considerably quicker than Hamilton, slower in Monaco and Suzuka, Malaysia Q '10 very quick - the only other I could remember, Rosberg has been good in the wet AFAIR. Brazil was not the only good wet race for Massa when he was quicker than Hamilton, he was similarly bad/quick/off track in Monaco '08 but didn't crash at the right time
- Myth of Hamilton's wet conditions brilliance brought up every time there's a chance of rain based mostly on one Silverstone race is getting annoying. There is a dozen examples to the contrary. Four mentioned, spinfest in China '09 (the only occasion not in the best cars which helps), China '07 gravel, crash vs Button in Canada, cranein Germany, lost Australia '10, find yourself the rest.
force india was never strong at silverstone historically!!!Spoutnik wrote:I think Perez and Williams can fight for the 3rd place if it's sunny, dry, hot track conditions.
Yes, I know, but suprisingly the FVJM09 reminds me a bit of the FW14/15. Really fast, average in low speed corner, good on fast corner plus not so bad on tires deg; ideal for Silverstone. But maybe I'm wrong, I gambleSamraj_official wrote:force india was never strong at silverstone historically!!!Spoutnik wrote:I think Perez and Williams can fight for the 3rd place if it's sunny, dry, hot track conditions.
To be fair I dont see such a terrible performance by Nico on this qualy. Yes, it wasnt good, but he was beaten by two drivers who are hailed as the best ones(alongside Alonso) in wet.Spoutnik wrote:Rosberg has always been one of the worst driver under wet condition, even in qualifying (Malaysia 15) Vettel with less downforce outperformed him. He's been outperformed by Hamilton in qualy under rain in Australia, China 2014. We will not even talk about the rape of Hamilton against him in Suzuka 2014 in 1v1 race.iotar__ wrote:Not surprising you are wrong and cannot back up your theories, mindlessly attacking drivers which is accepted and common behaviour here as long as targets are right. Your level of F1 knowledge makes you suitable candidate for Sky commentator.GPR-A wrote:Which is not surprising. Most drivers on the grid are better racers in wet than Rosberg.
- Silverstone and USA '15 he was considerably quicker than Hamilton, slower in Monaco and Suzuka, Malaysia Q '10 very quick - the only other I could remember, Rosberg has been good in the wet AFAIR. Brazil was not the only good wet race for Massa when he was quicker than Hamilton, he was similarly bad/quick/off track in Monaco '08 but didn't crash at the right time
- Myth of Hamilton's wet conditions brilliance brought up every time there's a chance of rain based mostly on one Silverstone race is getting annoying. There is a dozen examples to the contrary. Four mentioned, spinfest in China '09 (the only occasion not in the best cars which helps), China '07 gravel, crash vs Button in Canada, crane
About Silverstone 2015 we all now Hamilton was so slow because of tires freeze due to his brake balance
Yes. And that's my point, Rosberg is a random driver under the rain. Hamilton is one of the best with Vettel, Button and maybe AlonsoVasconia wrote:To be fair I dont see such a terrible performance by Nico on this qualy. Yes, it wasnt good, but he was beaten by two drivers who are hailed as the best ones(alongside Alonso) in wet.Spoutnik wrote:Rosberg has always been one of the worst driver under wet condition, even in qualifying (Malaysia 15) Vettel with less downforce outperformed him. He's been outperformed by Hamilton in qualy under rain in Australia, China 2014. We will not even talk about the rape of Hamilton against him in Suzuka 2014 in 1v1 race.iotar__ wrote:Not surprising you are wrong and cannot back up your theories, mindlessly attacking drivers which is accepted and common behaviour here as long as targets are right. Your level of F1 knowledge makes you suitable candidate for Sky commentator.
- Silverstone and USA '15 he was considerably quicker than Hamilton, slower in Monaco and Suzuka, Malaysia Q '10 very quick - the only other I could remember, Rosberg has been good in the wet AFAIR. Brazil was not the only good wet race for Massa when he was quicker than Hamilton, he was similarly bad/quick/off track in Monaco '08 but didn't crash at the right time
- Myth of Hamilton's wet conditions brilliance brought up every time there's a chance of rain based mostly on one Silverstone race is getting annoying. There is a dozen examples to the contrary. Four mentioned, spinfest in China '09 (the only occasion not in the best cars which helps), China '07 gravel, crash vs Button in Canada, crane
About Silverstone 2015 we all now Hamilton was so slow because of tires freeze due to his brake balance
1Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1:39.269 1:41.517 1:49.834
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5 Germany Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 1:39.814 1:39.632 1:49.908
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6 Germany Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:39.374 1:39.377 1:50.299
Are you kidding me?iotar__ wrote:Not surprising you are wrong and cannot back up your theories, mindlessly attacking drivers which is accepted and common behaviour here as long as targets are right. Your level of F1 knowledge makes you suitable candidate for Sky commentator.GPR-A wrote:Which is not surprising. Most drivers on the grid are better racers in wet than Rosberg.
- Silverstone and USA '15 he was considerably quicker than Hamilton, slower in Monaco and Suzuka, Malaysia Q '10 very quick - the only other I could remember, Rosberg has been good in the wet AFAIR. Brazil was not the only good wet race for Massa when he was quicker than Hamilton, he was similarly bad/quick/off track in Monaco '08 but didn't crash at the right time
- Myth of Hamilton's wet conditions brilliance brought up every time there's a chance of rain based mostly on one Silverstone race is getting annoying. There is a dozen examples to the contrary. Four mentioned, spinfest in China '09 (the only occasion not in the best cars which helps), China '07 gravel, crash vs Button in Canada, crane
Red Bull's form vs Ferrari should be interesting. If RB's aero is so great engine parts shouldn't be such a problem. All those huge disadvantages of Austria didn't turn out to be true. They were quick in the race (fine on tyres) although relatively. Potential competition wasn't there (Williams), same for quicker Ferrari in the race (one driver). This time Ferrari can't bring Spain's third sector type of excuse.
You are better off to completely ignore the existence of some people!mrluke wrote: Are you kidding me?
Always someone else's fault, never Hamilton's? No one squeezed Hamilton he crashed into other car attempting stupid overtake into non existent space (rings a bell?) Surprisingly other cars don't always disappear off track. Was he also 'squeezed' earlier in this race into small collision with Webber at the start? I suppose air squeezed him into ~2-3 spins in China, gravel trap in China, wall in Monaco, stopped his pace in USA, Silverstone and Brazil, sent him off track almost losing the win in Spa '10, forced him into bad race in Australia '10, sent him off track in Germany in need of a crane...etcTAG wrote:I like how Button squeezing Hamilton into the wall in Canada 2011 is used as a reference. Priceless. =D>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9jPvPS_xHk
The only chance a red bull will finish ahead of a Ferrari is if Ferrari makes a mess of their strategy again... on pure pace red bull is not a match for Ferrari especially on a power track. Hot cold or mild .Vasconia wrote:The battle between Red Bull and Ferrari will be the most interesting elemnt of this race. If the temperatures are "high" I think Ferrari(at least Vettel) will be ahead. Colder temperatures would suit RB.
Can we not stop slagging two drivers off we've just had four days worth of rubbing willies for our favorite drivers in the Austin thread.iotar__ wrote:Always someone else's fault, never Hamilton's? No one squeezed Hamilton he crashed into other car attempting stupid overtake into non existent space (rings a bell?) Surprisingly other cars don't always disappear off track. Was he also 'squeezed' earlier in this race into small collision with Webber at the start? I suppose air squeezed him into ~2-3 spins in China, gravel trap in China, wall in Monaco, stopped his pace in USA, Silverstone and Brazil, sent him off track almost losing the win in Spa '10, forced him into bad race in Australia '10, sent him off track in Germany in need of a crane...etcTAG wrote:I like how Button squeezing Hamilton into the wall in Canada 2011 is used as a reference. Priceless. =D>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9jPvPS_xHk
Yet despite all that he is a master of wet conditions because of one GB race in 08 OK, OK I'm leaving this discussion