2017 Malaysia Grand Prix - Sepang, 29 September-01 October

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
01 Oct 2017, 15:09
Onto different drivers now that was a chamion's drive from Max. Colour me impressed! Where did he get that from man?? Ha.
5 different race winners so far this season. Can Kimi make it 6?

Mercedes struggling with the heat and thus struggling to get tires working properly?

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GrandAxe wrote:
01 Oct 2017, 12:51
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In the meantime, the season is hotting up nicely, if Lewis wins Suzuka he'll only need to come second to win the WDC.
...something that is rather unlikely to happen if you follow this year. He is likely to either win or finish below 3rd.
Not for nothing, Rosberg's Championship is the only thing that lends credibility to Hamilton's recent success. Otherwise, he'd just be the guy who's had the best car. — bhall II
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seventhsin wrote:
01 Oct 2017, 14:13
The steering wheel thing is unusual, anyone got any ideas on why he took it?
Also no rumours of disciplinary action on Seb hitching a ride on the Sauber? the stewards stung Webber for doing the same in Singapore on Fernando's Ferrari.

Great to see Max on top step after the year he's had.
That he took it with him you mean? So it won’t be stolen when the fans get on track.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
01 Oct 2017, 15:09
Onto different drivers now that was a chamion's drive from Max. Colour me impressed! Where did he get that from man?? Ha.
He has been very unlucky up until now. He has been out-qualifying Ric and kept getting engine failures. His only real error was in Italy. If only the engines would have held on, he would have been ahead of Ric on points. So far, Ric's drives were hailed as good, but unfortunately there was never a good comparison to his team mate due to those failures. Today, Ric had no answer to Max's pace. 5 times that they both have finished the race, Max has finished 3 times ahead of Ric. I would only wish that his engines hold on for the rest of the season.

At the cool down room, Lewis was telling Max that, he could have closed the door much aggressively at the point of overtaking, but he didn't want to risk anything and let the door as much open.

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Jolle wrote:
01 Oct 2017, 15:16
seventhsin wrote:
01 Oct 2017, 14:13
The steering wheel thing is unusual, anyone got any ideas on why he took it?
Also no rumours of disciplinary action on Seb hitching a ride on the Sauber? the stewards stung Webber for doing the same in Singapore on Fernando's Ferrari.

Great to see Max on top step after the year he's had.
That he took it with him you mean? So it won’t be stolen when the fans get on track.
You haven't been to a race. Have u?
The cars which are stopped are kept in a separate place with Marshalls surrounding it and also a track stewards protecting it. Nobody can steal anything. Not even small parts of carbon fibre. They would confiscate it when u get out of the track

I don't think that is the reason he took it. It was most probably due to some secret clutch panel they were developing

And also it is against the rule to take the wheel with u. Which is actually a safety rule. AND why did he again escape penalty for it? Really biased stewards.

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siskue2005 wrote:
01 Oct 2017, 15:29
Jolle wrote:
01 Oct 2017, 15:16
seventhsin wrote:
01 Oct 2017, 14:13
The steering wheel thing is unusual, anyone got any ideas on why he took it?
Also no rumours of disciplinary action on Seb hitching a ride on the Sauber? the stewards stung Webber for doing the same in Singapore on Fernando's Ferrari.

Great to see Max on top step after the year he's had.
That he took it with him you mean? So it won’t be stolen when the fans get on track.
You haven't been to a race. Have u?
The cars which are stopped are kept in a separate place with Marshalls surrounding it and also a track stewards protecting it. Nobody can steal anything. Not even small parts of carbon fibre. They would confiscate it when u get out of the track

I don't think that is the reason he took it. It was most probably due to some secret clutch panel they were developing

And also it is against the rule to take the wheel with u. Which is actually a safety rule. AND why did he again escape penalty for it? Really biased stewards.
In crashes during the race, yes. Normally the track is clear before the fans take possession of it. This was an unusual crash because it happened after the race and there was no certainty that the Ferrari would be safe before the gates were open. There was also no safety “thing” to clear the car quickly (because the race was over) etc etc.

In the distant past a Ferrari once was destroyed by fans at Monza I think.

The steering wheel has gone trough scrutenering before the race.

I’m not a Vettel fan, but this was just common sense to take the wheel straight to the pit.

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SectorOne wrote:
01 Oct 2017, 12:45
proteus wrote:
01 Oct 2017, 12:34
I wish to spill some oil on the fire but what is this sound at 1:21 mark right before he hits the Stroll.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo13jKbGmXc
Whats more interesting is why bring the steering wheel? And even more interesting, he doesnt seem to be fiddling with the wheel in the cockpit, it looks like he´s fiddling with something much deeper in the cockpit.
Maybe Vettel's Ferrari was too light or illegal in some other way so he crashed it on purpose to hide the evidence. :lol:

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A couple of things I'm interested in:

- was it a complete component failure for Raikkonen or is it another gremlin?
- what happened with Vettel over the last few laps? Commentators suggested tyre degradation, but then he dropped away massively on the last lap and a half. A suggestion he may have run out of fuel? Is the latest spec a bit too thirsty?

Considering Vettel was at the back, this was as certain an opportunity for Raikkonen as he was likely to get - a complete own goal from Ferrari.
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siskue2005 wrote:
01 Oct 2017, 15:29
Jolle wrote:
01 Oct 2017, 15:16
seventhsin wrote:
01 Oct 2017, 14:13
The steering wheel thing is unusual, anyone got any ideas on why he took it?
Also no rumours of disciplinary action on Seb hitching a ride on the Sauber? the stewards stung Webber for doing the same in Singapore on Fernando's Ferrari.

Great to see Max on top step after the year he's had.
That he took it with him you mean? So it won’t be stolen when the fans get on track.
You haven't been to a race. Have u?
The cars which are stopped are kept in a separate place with Marshalls surrounding it and also a track stewards protecting it. Nobody can steal anything. Not even small parts of carbon fibre. They would confiscate it when u get out of the track

I don't think that is the reason he took it. It was most probably due to some secret clutch panel they were developing

And also it is against the rule to take the wheel with u. Which is actually a safety rule. AND why did he again escape penalty for it? Really biased stewards.
during the race yes, after the race it is mayhem. people climbing over fences, nearly get run over by tractors, buses Vip shuttles. etc. taking DRS signs, Rolex signs, everyhing what can be taken will be gone... also wasn't once a steering whell stolen (from the pits) once...

so he probably took it because of the reason Jolle pointed out.

look what they take while at it:
https://blackflag.jalopnik.com/winner-t ... 1818481739
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Seriously though, what was that debris making sparks under Ricciardo's car?
And why exactly did Raikkonen not start?

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Fulcrum wrote:
01 Oct 2017, 16:28
A couple of things I'm interested in:

- was it a complete component failure for Raikkonen or is it another gremlin?
- what happened with Vettel over the last few laps? Commentators suggested tyre degradation, but then he dropped away massively on the last lap and a half. A suggestion he may have run out of fuel? Is the latest spec a bit too thirsty?

Considering Vettel was at the back, this was as certain an opportunity for Raikkonen as he was likely to get - a complete own goal from Ferrari.
He dropped off a lot in those last few laps. More so than simply just tire problems. Perhaps fuel was indeed an issue, given the record breaking pace.

edit.
Yep it was fuel. And tires, but less so.

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/form ... 85538.html
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JonoNic wrote:
01 Oct 2017, 11:06
Slow speed accident ripping off a rear wheel? That can only happen if one is turning left and the other turning right.
But at Baku we were assured that it was impossible for damage to happen in a slow speed collision... :mrgreen:

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So Alonso finished 30 seconds behind Van and Bottas was like 50 seconds behind Hamilton.
That sounds like a lot really.

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Martin Brundle was sure that a gearbox penalty is on the cards for VET, but while I was reading interviews etc from Ferrari side, they all seemed pretty relaxed. So is it really that highly possible?

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Bill_Kar wrote:
01 Oct 2017, 17:09
Martin Brundle was sure that a gearbox penalty is on the cards for VET, but while I was reading interviews etc from Ferrari side, they all seemed pretty relaxed. So is it really that highly possible?
Brundle is known for his cringeworthy bias against VET.

AMUS:
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/form ... 85538.html
The power transmission was immediately put into a transport box and sent to Maranello for check. She is then to be flown back to Suzuka in time.

Experts from other teams see a good chance that Vettel's gear has survived. "The greatest risk for the transmission is a lateral impact. When the drive shaft is pulled from the front to the rear, or vice versa, the housing is usually broken. And this can be exchanged without penalty. "
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