2017 Malaysia Grand Prix - Sepang, 29 September-01 October

[Vanja #66]

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[NathanOlder]

The 3 ferrari onboard pics look like Vettel heading to the Apex?

I think its ironic that some Vettel fans are blaming Stroll for doing what they said Vettel was allowed to do in Singapore. Sweep across the track and block the car behind.

It doesn't matter now, what happenwd has happened. What matters is wether he needs a gearbox change or not.

[Restomaniac]

The 3 ferrari onboard pics look like Vettel heading to the Apex?

I think its ironic that some Vettel fans are blaming Stroll for doing what they said Vettel was allowed to do in Singapore. Sweep across the track and block the car behind.

It doesn't matter now, what happenwd has happened. What matters is wether he needs a gearbox change or not.

Yet Vet said he was going for marbles pick up. Now I'm no expert but I don't think the racing line is the place to pick them up. Although Vet is the expert so maybe it is.

[Jolle]

The three times Vettel bumped into someone (Baku, Singapore and now) this season are very different but also very similar. Somehow in all three cases he didn't anticipated enough the actions of the other drivers (especially Baku and now) and felt some entitlement on his place or line on track. Also, in all three cases it wasn't in standerd racing but restart, start and slowdown.

In Baku he bumped into the driver setting the pace.
In Singapore everybody went straight and he swept across
Now everybody slowed down and he didn't (so much).

It also feels a bit like Lewis in 2011, every time there was something on track, he was involved. Lack of focus? too eager? some kind of frustration?

Not that the blame goed directly to Vettel in this instance, Stroll clearly moved to the outside, but Vettels speed was too great for a slowdown lap, but not illegal!

I would say the technical blame is on Stroll, the moral one on Vettel.

[TAG]

Stroll clearly moved to the outside, but Vettels speed was too great for a slowdown lap, but not illegal!
I would say the technical blame is on Stroll, the moral one on Vettel.

did you watch the video or look at the screenshots up there ^^? There is not blame on Stroll technical or otherwise. Vettel tore his car up because... I don't know you'd have to ask Vettel but Stroll maintains a slow steady arc through a turn. This on on a cool down lap mind you.

[F1NAC]

Stroll clearly moved to the outside, but Vettels speed was too great for a slowdown lap, but not illegal!
I would say the technical blame is on Stroll, the moral one on Vettel.

but Stroll maintains a slow steady arc through a turn.

I don't know what steady arc means in your vocabulary..

[NathanOlder]

Stroll definitely moved a little to the right. But it looks worse as i think the car we are onboard with moves closer to the apex on the left. Which in turn makes it look like stroll moved more than he did.

[TAG]

I don't know what steady arc means in your vocabulary..

https://i.imgur.com/utfuIgW.gif

The closer the trailing camera the wider the angle and the wider the distance would seem but there is no movement. look at Vettel's onboard and cross reference with this. A steady arc means not WTF Vettel did.

[notsofast]

I don't quite understand the debates about the cool-down lap. The race is over. Racing rules don't apply. There is no "racing line" or anything like that. There's no requirement to "leave room". Drivers weave left and right all the time, to wave to the fans. Drivers go off the "racing line" to pick up rubber. If you want to pass someone, you simply do so at your own risk. This was a freak accident with no guilty party. How many times has it happened in 1000 races? If you want to play it safe, don't pass. That's all there's to it.

[Edax]

Stroll clearly moved to the outside, but Vettels speed was too great for a slowdown lap, but not illegal!
I would say the technical blame is on Stroll, the moral one on Vettel.

did you watch the video or look at the screenshots up there ^^? There is not blame on Stroll technical or otherwise. Vettel tore his car up because... I don't know you'd have to ask Vettel but Stroll maintains a slow steady arc through a turn. This on on a cool down lap mind you.

Exactly you can't blame people for going offline during a cooldown lap. They even go on the runoff areas if the rubber is there. Plus the guys have a pretty heavy workload getting through the menus to get the car ready for shutdown.

Besides if people blame Stroll for not seeing Vettel in that little bouncy thing they call mirror, how about vettel not being able to see that he was not able to clear that big martini thing that was right in front of his visor.

I mean this is not like the chaos of a singapore start. This is more like changing lanes on a motorway. Plenty of time to anticipate and to pay attention to what other people are up to. Vettel messed this one up pretty badly.

[Restomaniac]

Stroll clearly moved to the outside, but Vettels speed was too great for a slowdown lap, but not illegal!
I would say the technical blame is on Stroll, the moral one on Vettel.

did you watch the video or look at the screenshots up there ^^? There is not blame on Stroll technical or otherwise. Vettel tore his car up because... I don't know you'd have to ask Vettel but Stroll maintains a slow steady arc through a turn. This on on a cool down lap mind you.

Exactly you can't blame people for going offline during a cooldown lap. They even go on the runoff areas if the rubber is there. Plus the guys have a pretty heavy workload getting through the menus to get the car ready for shutdown.

Besides if people blame Stroll for not seeing Vettel in that little bouncy thing they call mirror, how about vettel not being able to see that he was not able to clear that big martini thing that was right in front of his visor.

I mean this is not like the chaos of a singapore start. This is more like changing lanes on a motorway. Plenty of time to anticipate and to pay attention to what other people are up to. Vettel messed this one up pretty badly.

Indeed. Ham did exactly this. He went off track to do his pick up right before he gave Ves a clap.

[turbof1]

Hello guys and girls, it's been a while.

Regarding the absolutely weird accident: I'm still not able to comprehend how this was even possible. Both drivers must have been busy with settings on their steering wheels and totally oblivious on their surroundings. Regardless of analyses who is wrong or who is correct, both were in a position where they could have backed out of their upcoming collision, and both should have taken avoiding action. It's a situation outside of competition, and one getting the pickup line later than the other should not have made any difference.

I certainly would not want any of those 2 next to me in normal traffic... .

[TAG]

Hello guys and girls, it's been a while.

Regarding the absolutely weird accident: I'm still not able to comprehend how this was even possible. Both drivers must have been busy with settings on their steering wheels and totally oblivious on their surroundings.

Picking their noses or texting would be my two guesses, one difficult to do with a helmet on the other difficult to do with gloves on. If it had been Lewis, I also would have guessed instagraming.

[Restomaniac]

Hello guys and girls, it's been a while.

Regarding the absolutely weird accident: I'm still not able to comprehend how this was even possible. Both drivers must have been busy with settings on their steering wheels and totally oblivious on their surroundings. Regardless of analyses who is wrong or who is correct, both were in a position where they could have backed out of their upcoming collision, and both should have taken avoiding action. It's a situation outside of competition, and one getting the pickup line later than the other should not have made any difference.

I certainly would not want any of those 2 next to me in normal traffic... .

That is what I keep coming back too.
Vet said he was going for pick up and he knows every driver does that.Why the hell did he feel the need to get there first?
Yes Str maybe sleeping but still what was the mad rush? This is the bit I cannot understand.

[siskue2005]

Vettel keeps raking in these Driver of The Day awards, he's got this year's title sewn up!

https://scontent.fagc1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/ ... e=5A50C56C

You know it is just fan votes don't you?
U can vote for it during the race. My friend in UAE is a huge vettel fan. He votes for vettel every race using multiple devices from different ip addresses etc etc
Imagine to what lengths people go especially if it the most popular team and their driver