Lewis Hamilton has taken another decisive win at the Japanese Grand Prix, fending off Max Verstappen in the final few laps. Daniel Ricciardo completed the podium for Red Bull Racing. The win is a major one for Hamilton, as his championship lead is now further extended after Vettel retired early on with power issues.
Bottas said that the package was not working. For some reason he used it but not Lewis.
If it was Ferrari, Hamilton fans would quickly explain to us that Ferrari did it so Vettel would end up in front of Kimi.
But since this is Mercedes, most unbias team in history of F1, no one can understand what really happened...
You think you are being sarcastic but ironically your are telling the truth. In Ferrari, rosberg could not have win any race but he won a championship in Merc.
I am sarcastic, but I think you are underestimating Rosberg.
Also, I have nothing against team orders. I don't mind that Bottas ruining his race in Spain in order to slow Vettel down.
Bottas proved that he is very valuable to his team.
What bothers me are (some) Hamilton fans that see conspiracy everywhere.
Personally, I am Ferrari fan and Kimi fan(NOT Vettel fan), but Kimi is often just too slow to help Vettel. I think Ferrari should have replaced him last year.
But it was. And Haminton said it was better and wanted to use it, but thought better of it since it would be too risky to take his car part to put on the upgrad so close to qualifying. Another interesting thing is that Bottas had a hybrid setup. He was unhappy with the new aero and new chassis setting so he decided to use Hamilton's old chassis settings with the new aero and it went horribly wrong
for as himyou can see. And when since Bottas became a benchmark for upgrades? Lol
You all need to get you emotions aside.. Forget about the diva tendencies (both car and Bottas!) the data showed it is a worthy upgrade and they will be using it here in Suzuka.
Exactly what I was going to say. Hamilton was unsure if he should switch back to new parts after FP3 since Bottas had said he was happy but then expressed after quali that he was happy he left it as is.
No emotion whatsoever, just hard to understand how the relative performance of the two packages correlates with your analysis. (I.e. Old package got Pole + second place; new package got 5th and 5th - overtaken by someone starting at the back of the grid!)
No emotion whatsoever, just hard to understand how the relative performance of the two packages correlates with your analysis. (I.e. Old package got Pole + second place; new package got 5th and 5th - overtaken by someone starting at the back of the grid!)
What this says is that regardless of the package, what's important is being able to get your tires in the right window and then keeping them in that window. There's loads more time there than in whatever advantage Mercedes saw with the new package.
I think in Suzuka we'll see both the package and the tire temperature window be in the sweet spot.
No emotion whatsoever, just hard to understand how the relative performance of the two packages correlates with your analysis. (I.e. Old package got Pole + second place; new package got 5th and 5th - overtaken by someone starting at the back of the grid!)
What this says is that regardless of the package, what's important is being able to get your tires in the right window and then keeping them in that window. There's loads more time there than in whatever advantage Mercedes saw with the new package.
I think in Suzuka we'll see both the package and the tire temperature window be in the sweet spot.
I think it's possible and certainly wouldn't be completely surprised to see it happen, but I still think the genesis of this conversation - my comment that the package didn't work as expected - is valid/correct.
The other caveat for Mercedes performance might be whether teams are running max downforce here (having seen Ferrari's spoon wing, I guess not) but if they were, this might not favour Mercedes.
What's the weather like at the circuit currently ?
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It's amazing how Mercedes through their PR tirade manage to fool the audience season in and season out.
Once again, Friday will be a struggle and then WHAM! Pole Position by 2-3 tenths at least.
Then, Lewis will control the pace and finish 3-7 seconds ahead of a RBR/Ferrari and Mercedes will tell us how close this battle is!
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Brings back memories of Horner during red bulls 4 years at the top!
That's not the case for 2017.
If you take race by race, you'll see a pattern. When Mercedes struggles on Friday, they struggle on Sunday as well (Bahrain, Russia, Monaco, Hungary, Singapore, Malaysia).The opposite is also true, albeit somewhat less reliable, they won/had genuine pace in Spain, Canada, Spa, Italy.
Vettel gets pole but does get a 5-place grid penalty because it turns out the gearbox did have issues so they had to replace it/fix it.
He also blocked another driver and gets 3 license points penalty.
Hamilton thus gets P1, Verstappen gets P2, Kimi gets P3, Bottas P4, DannyRic P5, and thus Seb P6.
1st corner Kimi gets a slow start, DannyRic avoids hitting him, Vettel dives in on the inside, then moves to the right to avoid bottas whilst Max and Lew go through T1, and slams into the RB of Dannyric. Blames Riccy for 'not leavin him enough space'. Danny has a puncture, Vettel needs a new front wing. A Safety car is needed. Danny has a damaged car but keeps in the race.
Vettel comes back in the back of the field, then gets a penalty from Whiting for 'causing a collision'. FIA decides for a change not to shrug it off and make a statement and also protect themselves.
Seb does a tirade on the radio. 15 laps later makes a pitstop for tire changes, gets back on track and completely slams into Ocon or Grosjean, something french anyway.
Both out of the race. Force India files a complaint and the incident will be investigated after the race.
Vettel blames Ocon, Ocon blames Vettel.
Verstappen wins another Japanese GP, Hamilton plays it safe and gets P2. Kimi P3.
After the race, FIA lays blame with Vettel, gets him a grid penalty for the next GP, and gets him another streak of points on his superlicense.
This then totals him in getting so many license points that FIA DSQ him from the next GP in an effort to 'wipe the sheet clean' after there has been critisim this year on favouring Vettel/Ferrari. The WDC was decided anyway after he crashed with Ocon, so the FIA decides they'll do damage control and come in hard.
Everybody goes crazy. Lots of press talk.
Grosjean gets his dream Ferrari drive for Austin but will crash hard. Giovanazzi gets the Haas drive.
Anyway, enough with crazy story.
Vettel P1 qually. Verstappen P2. Hamilton DNF.
Seb now suddenly only 9 points away from Lewis. Everything changes. WDC competition all back in the game.
"Explain the ending to F1 in football terms"
"Hamilton was beating Verstappen 7-0, then the ref decided F%$& rules, next goal wins
while also sending off 4 Hamilton players to make it more interesting"
I quoted him from Malaysia!
For Suzuka he is just a bit weary of the package on heavy fuel. He did not get any heavy fuel running with the new package in Malaysia. And Suzuka will have rain on Friday. You guys need to pay more attention man
You are misquoting him like crazy...
Hamilton said he considered(highlighting how unsure he was) going to the new package because him and Bottas were very close together in FP3 and every milisecond counts.
Somehow you turned that into "Hamilton knows the new package is better but stuck with the old one"... because reasons, i guess.
