No More Grid Girls - replaced by Grid Kids

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Moose wrote:
08 Mar 2018, 19:23
Dear god, what is it with everyone here? Why is everyone trying to force a "pretend political correctness" motive into this?

This wasn't a political correctness move. No one did this because someone was campaigning for horribly exploited grid girls to be protected from themselves.

The reasoning was simple. The FOM no longer thought that scantily clad women on the grid was the thing they wanted in their show, thus, they removed them from their show.

It's their right to decide what their show looks like, get over it.

Do you actually believe what you say?
Surely it was hybrid move of PC and puritanism. Call it Zeitgeist if you want.
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At what point has *anyone* related to the decision said it was *anything* to do with being PC or prudish. That line of reasoning has been purely and wholly added by observers.

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PC gone mad, pure and simple.
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Moose wrote:
08 Mar 2018, 19:23
Dear god, what is it with everyone here? Why is everyone trying to force a "pretend political correctness" motive into this?

This wasn't a political correctness move. No one did this because someone was campaigning for horribly exploited grid girls to be protected from themselves.

The reasoning was simple. The FOM no longer thought that scantily clad women on the grid was the thing they wanted in their show, thus, they removed them from their show.
https://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2018/01/ ... rid-girls/

Sean Bratches, Managing Director, Commercial Operations at Formula 1 made the additional comment:
“Over the last year we have looked at a number of areas which we felt needed updating so as to be more in tune with our vision for this great sport.
“While the practice of employing grid girls has been a staple of Formula 1 Grands Prix for decades, we feel this custom does not resonate with our brand values and clearly is at odds with modern day societal norms.
We don’t believe the practice is appropriate or relevant to Formula 1 and its fans, old and new, across the world.”
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Phil wrote:
08 Mar 2018, 23:47
Sean Bratches, Managing Director, Commercial Operations at Formula 1 made the additional comment:
“Over the last year we have looked at a number of areas which we felt needed updating so as to be more in tune with our vision for this great sport.
“While the practice of employing grid girls has been a staple of Formula 1 Grands Prix for decades, we feel this custom does not resonate with our brand values and clearly is at odds with modern day societal norms.
We don’t believe the practice is appropriate or relevant to Formula 1 and its fans, old and new, across the world.”
I'm missing something, in what way is "[this] clearly is at odds with modern day societal norms" the same as "PC gone mad". By definition, if it's a societal norm, it's very clearly not some crazy outlying "PC gone mad" type opinion, but instead, just what society in general expects as the normal.

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NathanOlder wrote:
08 Mar 2018, 23:25
PC gone mad, pure and simple.
SO very true.
Pure pandering to the Me Toos.
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Moose wrote:
08 Mar 2018, 23:53
I'm missing something, in what way is "[this] clearly is at odds with modern day societal norms" the same as "PC gone mad". By definition, if it's a societal norm, it's very clearly not some crazy outlying "PC gone mad" type opinion, but instead, just what society in general expects as the normal.
Those that are blaming it on "PC", are just using "PC" as a convenient scapegoat!
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dans79 wrote:
09 Mar 2018, 01:03
Moose wrote:
08 Mar 2018, 23:53
I'm missing something, in what way is "[this] clearly is at odds with modern day societal norms" the same as "PC gone mad". By definition, if it's a societal norm, it's very clearly not some crazy outlying "PC gone mad" type opinion, but instead, just what society in general expects as the normal.
Those that are blaming it on "PC", are just using "PC" as a convenient scapegoat!
Or those blaming it on "PC" actually know whats going on!
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Dude why do you keep posting pics of the girls in the motogp paddock ? The f1 girls are dressed properly and look respectful. (Maybe its Tom Luthi's wife ?)

Although i think a lot of people seem to think the F1 grid girls are dressed like that. Maybe they are in America, but thats only 1 country.
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NathanOlder wrote:
09 Mar 2018, 01:48
Dude why do you keep posting pics of the girls in the motogp paddock ? The f1 girls are dressed properly and look respectful. (Maybe its Tom Luthi's wife ?)

Although i think a lot of people seem to think the F1 grid girls are dressed like that. Maybe they are in America, but thats only 1 country.
I overunderestimated the wheels involved and was just trying to help show how wrong it is :wink:

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This subject, which is on the other side of the crossover from engineering to the business of F! has been such an expose and revelation of the matrix of human nature; fascinating.

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No one has ever held a gun to a girls head to get them to do it. Quite the opposite they fight to get the job.
Y'all got it all wrong.
They take great pride in being picked.
Just 'cause some of you got something against pretty women you want to ruin the girls enjoyment. It ain't like there's a bunch of perverts that enjoy seeing good looking women.
I'm beginning to wonder about some of you.
If the women enjoy it and do it of their own free will what the heck is your problem?
Don't look if you're somehow offended by beautiful women.
You don't want your daughters to do it, FINE, don't let them.
Please lock this thread as it's getting really stupid.
Men have been looking at beautiful women for thousands of years and you want to change that?
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strad wrote:
09 Mar 2018, 08:29
No one has ever held a gun to a girls head to get them to do it. Quite the opposite they fight to get the job.
Y'all got it all wrong.
They take great pride in being picked.
Just 'cause some of you got something against pretty women you want to ruin the girls enjoyment. It ain't like there's a bunch of perverts that enjoy seeing good looking women.
I'm beginning to wonder about some of you.
If the women enjoy it and do it of their own free will what the heck is your problem?
Don't look if you're somehow offended by beautiful women.
You don't want your daughters to do it, FINE, don't let them.
Please lock this thread as it's getting really stupid.
Men have been looking at beautiful women for thousands of years and you want to change that?
Hear, hear or is it here, here :D
Don't lock it as it is giving valuable research material

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Sebastian Vettel has defended his stance about the Monaco ‘grid boys’. Two weeks ago, the quadruple world champion admitted his surprise at having pulled up at his grid position for the fabled street race only to find an attractive man holding his board.

“F*ck, you get there and park behind George or Dave, what’s the point?” he exclaimed in the post-race press conference.

But when told that Montreal’s race organisers are planning the return of the customary ‘grid girls’ this Sunday, Vettel admitted his relief.

“I am very happy about it,” the 27-year-old is quoted in Canada by Brazil’s UOL Esporte.

“I was not very excited in Monaco.”

Asked why he has been so vocal about the ‘grid boys’ experiment, German Vettel admitted it is nothing personal but “I cannot enjoy beautiful men”.

“I think some things do not have to change and I think this is one of those things,” he added.