Toro Rosso STR13 Honda

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ispano6 wrote:
26 Apr 2018, 05:48
Could Haas' performance improvement be partially attributed to better braking and tire temperature control?
Im sure the improvement in driver confidence can be attributed to such.

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Rear wing for Baku
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Looks like China spec without the T wing.
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dren wrote:
26 Apr 2018, 13:21
Looks like China spec without the T wing.
Agree. Last year they run more skinny RW and one less flap FW right? I think they have another version trialled by tomorrow

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Higher quality image of the Baku-spec rear wing:
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Am I seeing things or is the angle of attack unusually small on the rear wings second element? The gap between the two seems larger than normal as well

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It's pretty small but not much more so than other teams, that's probably aimed at maximum DRS drag reduction rather than anything else.

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Drag reduction without DRS open, in fact. Enlarging the slot height gets more air in there to prevent stall, but lowers the pressure difference, lowering the drag and downforce. However, I'm not sure that is the case with this spoon RW on STR13.
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There is a Mercedes like cutout on the top of the sidepod
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ispano6 wrote:
25 Apr 2018, 05:16
Perhaps this might be a 2019 topic for STR14 but I was curious if whether STR Honda had considered changing their brake system from Brembo to Akebono. It seemed McLaren had an advantage under braking and I wondered how much the partnership was made possible with Honda being in the picture. STR probably prefers to stay with Brembo but Honda might suggest trying out Akebono. I don't have any data to show if one is better than the other or how many different brake system providers there are in F1.
I guess that Mclaren advantage in braking is more likely about weight distribution and suspension setup rather than brake manufacturer.
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amho wrote:
28 Apr 2018, 20:54
I guess that Mclaren advantage in braking is more likely about weight distribution and suspension setup rather than brake manufacturer.
i'm sure the braking performance is limited by the tyres and grip, rather than the brakes themselves.

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ian_s wrote:
04 May 2018, 17:10
amho wrote:
28 Apr 2018, 20:54
I guess that Mclaren advantage in braking is more likely about weight distribution and suspension setup rather than brake manufacturer.
i'm sure the braking performance is limited by the tyres and grip, rather than the brakes themselves.
Unless we consider the effects of heat. It may be that another brand is better/worse at managing heat fade.

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Braking at the end of the long straights at Baku is mainly about a) Retaining tyre temperature on the straight and b) running high downforce/drag setups comparitively.

Weight distributions are fairly tightly fixed, wheelbases aren't too dissimilar for weight transfer and braking effects, discs are fairly cold from the huge amount of air they just took in so heat isn't too much of an issue - it builds up more in the twisty section.