2018 Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya, May 11-13

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Bill_Kar wrote:
11 May 2018, 17:29
Vasconia wrote:
11 May 2018, 17:19
F1Krof wrote:
11 May 2018, 16:17


I agree. Ferrari's overnight work is impressive. They're the only ones who can squeeze the maximum out of the softer compounds when its needed.
This trend began last year when, for the first time in years, Ferrari was hidding some potential, or at least being better on Saturdays and Sundays. This year this trend is even stronger as we see how the team can extract much more potential from the car when they find the correct set-up.
But they can't just take wrong direction and then finding the solution overnight in every GP. I think it's safe to say that they are sandbagging on Fridays.
There is no magic and neither is by chance. They have to protect their hardware on Friday, but get their setup work done and as a result, they keep their engines turned down and focus on a program. They have a good car and behaves more predictable since last year, unlike 2016 and before. So, nothing odd to figure out and hence, just concentrate on program. When comes qualifying, turn up the wick. It's not like they go wrong direction and overnight take right direction.

Mercedes are also predictable. Almost every FP1 they top and then stay there for FP2. Their top times remain the same from FP1 to FP2, whereas Ferrari doesn't even turn up decent level of performance until FP2 and then you see, they converge for FP2 and difference is not much. Come qualifying, they are on par. That has been the story, except for some outliers.

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LM10 wrote:
11 May 2018, 17:33
Vasconia wrote:
11 May 2018, 17:19
F1Krof wrote:
11 May 2018, 16:17


I agree. Ferrari's overnight work is impressive. They're the only ones who can squeeze the maximum out of the softer compounds when its needed.
This trend began last year when, for the first time in years, Ferrari was hidding some potential, or at least being better on Saturdays and Sundays. This year this trend is even stronger as we see how the team can extract much more potential from the car when they find the correct set-up.
It indeed is impressive how much Ferrari improves from Friday to Saturday. I can remember when in Bahrain after FP2 Toto told they were not worried about Ferrari's strong pace since they were running a higher engine mode. At the end Ferrari still did an even bigger jump performance wise than Mercedes from Friday to Saturday.

Let's see how much teams will improve this time tomorrow.
Really? Gap on Friday in Bahrain between Ferrari and Mercedes 0.563 then come Saturday 0.166.
Last race in Baku, gap on Friday between Ferrari and Mercedes 0.739 then come Saturday 0.169.

Australia and China were the races where Ferrari improved from Friday to Saturday more than Mercedes, so its back and forth and the moment. Let see what happens tomorrow looks like an exciting 3 way battle.

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Any picture of the race pace?

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dans79 wrote:
11 May 2018, 16:13
MtthsMlw wrote:
11 May 2018, 16:04
''malfunctioning''
No way to know for sure when the car is still coasting around the track.
The team have detailed telemetry and used the word "malfunctioning"...
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Any long run data?

Agree that Ferrari will turn it up and be close tomorrow but Mercedes nevertheless looking good here as expected.

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matt_b wrote:
11 May 2018, 18:25
LM10 wrote:
11 May 2018, 17:33
Vasconia wrote:
11 May 2018, 17:19


This trend began last year when, for the first time in years, Ferrari was hidding some potential, or at least being better on Saturdays and Sundays. This year this trend is even stronger as we see how the team can extract much more potential from the car when they find the correct set-up.
It indeed is impressive how much Ferrari improves from Friday to Saturday. I can remember when in Bahrain after FP2 Toto told they were not worried about Ferrari's strong pace since they were running a higher engine mode. At the end Ferrari still did an even bigger jump performance wise than Mercedes from Friday to Saturday.

Let's see how much teams will improve this time tomorrow.
Really? Gap on Friday in Bahrain between Ferrari and Mercedes 0.563 then come Saturday 0.166.
Last race in Baku, gap on Friday between Ferrari and Mercedes 0.739 then come Saturday 0.169.

Australia and China were the races where Ferrari improved from Friday to Saturday more than Mercedes, so its back and forth and the moment. Let see what happens tomorrow looks like an exciting 3 way battle.
You are right, thanks. Then I have mixed up the weekends. :)

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f1316 wrote:
11 May 2018, 18:32
Any long run data?
Ok found it from Sky:

https://ibb.co/iq72Qd

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Does anyone know what the difference between the mediums and softs are?

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dp12 wrote:
11 May 2018, 21:34
Does anyone know what the difference between the mediums and softs are?
0.4 between SuperSofts and Softs.

0.7 between Softs and Mediums.

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makecry wrote:
11 May 2018, 21:36
dp12 wrote:
11 May 2018, 21:34
Does anyone know what the difference between the mediums and softs are?
0.4 between SuperSofts and Softs.

0.7 between Softs and Mediums.
Well according to Pirelli best possible time Alonso could have done is 18.8 and he did 19.7....so that is 0.9 med-ss
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Long run avg's by AMuS.

Hard to say if Alonso could have been best of the rest whit soft coumpands, Vandoorne was close to it.

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GoranF1 wrote:
11 May 2018, 21:54
makecry wrote:
11 May 2018, 21:36
dp12 wrote:
11 May 2018, 21:34
Does anyone know what the difference between the mediums and softs are?
0.4 between SuperSofts and Softs.

0.7 between Softs and Mediums.
Well according to Pirelli best possible time Alonso could have done is 18.8 and he did 19.7....so that is 0.9 med-ss
ALO did a 1.20.035 on mediums in FP2. Stoffel did a 1.20.083 on mediums in FP1. ALO's best sector times in FP1 on softs was 1.19.639 (i think)
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New spec engine for Raikkonen, or original 2018 spec?

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Zynerji wrote:
11 May 2018, 22:12
New spec engine for Raikkonen, or original 2018 spec?
Nahh, I heard it's a V8 2012 spec.
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