2018 Austrian Grand Prix, Spielberg, 29 June - 1 July

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Re: 2018 Austrian Grand Prix, Spielberg, 29 June - 1 July

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ispano6 wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 13:15


Why don't you read up about what those run off sections on Paul Ricard are made of. The consequence of going off track is that your tires will be damaged and will cause vibration for the rest of your race until you swap them out.

"The circuit is known for its distinctive coloured runoff areas. The surface of the ‘blue zone’ is a mixture of asphalt and tungsten and the ‘red zone’ has a more abrasive surface to maximise tyre grip and minimise braking distances. This approach meant the use of gravel traps was not needed."
that may sound that it might work, but in reality, when you're not sliding over them, just rolling, you don't lose much if anything at all, so they don't punish the guy who went totally off the track, they sort of pretend they might, but that track is a bad example anyway, as a test track, you don't want each mistake on any corner punished by bits falling off, and at that the Paul Ricard is very good, but as a pure race track with strict track limits - not so much

and because the drivers lately have developed a habit of running someone off the road or out of the road and stewards do pretty much nothing about it, because when this happens on tracks like PR, the guy that was ran off, doesn't lose anything, but on Spielberg, this can cause problems for the guy that wasn't left room - a reason for stewards to take action

so those ultrasafe run off areas are doing noone any favors, they kind of work, but not really, and they let offenders get away with stuff because "nothing really happened", the yellow kerb on the other hand does exactly what it has to do

they say those ultra safe run offs promote racing, but in reality, if you go in there because you were fighting someone, and you slide off and destroy your tires, you lost anyway, because you can't really get back into THAT fight any more, and if you need to get back in pits for new tires, you're probably 10 places down and out of points, and with these mickey mouse tires, gigantic in size and weight cars and fuel for 300km, you can't really go on some extreme strategy and do 3x15 quali laps and get back into the fight, so as promoters of racing - those ultra safe run offs don't really work either

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Comments, good..bad..or indifferent , about various commentators do not belong in a thread about a GP. So they have been removed. Please stay on topic.

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Re: 2018 Austrian Grand Prix, Spielberg, 29 June - 1 July

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Merc has played with their downforce levels and it was Lewis today who check the low downforce one ...
Seems that Ferrari is strong in S2 and Merc in S3 with S1 even-steven ...
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Are Ferrari trying to save a set of US for the racd? Perhaps SS-US strategy?
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Good lap from Grosjean...awaiting him crashing out in Q2

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Didn't Ferrari start with more US anyway?
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Phil wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 15:13
Are Ferrari trying to save a set of US for the racd? Perhaps SS-US strategy?
i think S will definitely by tyre for the race. So possibly SS-S or US- S

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Why not the other way around? There is talk that teams are unsure if the undrcut or overcut is faster. If you can start on the SS and then go US, you might be in a good position if you can stay close enough.
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Phil wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 15:22
Why not the other way around? There is talk that teams are unsure if the undrcut or overcut is faster. If you can start on the SS and then go US, you might be in a good position if you can stay close enough.
Don't know. Those US looked bad especially on RB after some laps

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I wasnt talking about RB, i was talking about Ferrari who didnt use them in Q1.

Well, we’ll soon find out now. :D
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SS on Mercs US on Ferrari for Q2 first runs

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Phil
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Yes. Ok. That answers my theory. Lol. Mercedes looks good though on that SS. Hamilton with a mistake in the last corner too.
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How many safety cars will we see during the race due to debris from frontwings? Or flat tires?
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Its a war of attrition between McLaren and the track. Sadly, the track is winning.

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The FW situation is ridiculous.