Merc isn't that secretive it seems. They often don't mind if pictures like these are getting taken.
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Today's unveiled Mercedes AMG F1 W09 resembles a lot its sucessful predecessor, the championship winning W08. And this is no coincidence, as team boss Toto Wolff reveals. However, there are some interesting changes to come this year with the new car.
I think you have to hand your car to the scrutineers, and they don't care.
The car is wheeled down to scrutineering as you say. I've got some photos of Schumacher's Ferrari diffuser in 2000(?) in the same way - the car was sat in the scrutineering queue and I just walked up and photographed it. No one minded, team members just stood around chatting.Sevach wrote: ↑26 Jul 2018, 15:28I think you have to hand your car to the scrutineers, and they don't care.
Also screens have been forbidden at the GPs (still used at testing) for quite a few years now.
Still weird that the car is suspended and without the nose giving a clear view of everything.
Well Ferrari's and Merc's wheelbases are simliar but Ferrari is running more rake which should in theory give them more DF. Therefore they might not be on RB level in Monaco, Hungary and Singapore but they're faster than Merc on these maximum DF tracks.Sierra117 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2018, 12:41I'm a bit confused - for quite a few years we've talked how Merc's design is for most of the tracks and thus Monaco and Hungary and Singapore end up unfavourable tracks ... yet we can see from last year and this year, Ferrari performs EVERYWHERE. Last year we saw them do great on all tracks, but their PU wasn't quite there yet and this year they've worked on power, so now there's no track that is weak for them.
The rake is about traction, not generating more downforce. The rake allows for a softer rear suspension, which will improve traction. Something that is really useful with these V6s.
Sorry, you're wrong, it decidedly has an aero impact as wellwesley123 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2018, 18:48The rake is about traction, not generating more downforce. The rake allows for a softer rear suspension, which will improve traction. Something that is really useful with these V6s.
People like to differentiate those three tracks based on downforce, but in reality, they differentiate largely on traction. And that is the thing that Mercedes have struggled with, and that is also why they perform so badly on these tracks.
If it actually was aero that was the differentiating factor, Mercedes would have sucked pretty badly in Barcelona, which they did not.
It's aero, however, isn't the goal.mantikos wrote: ↑27 Jul 2018, 20:22Sorry, you're wrong, it decidedly has an aero impact as wellwesley123 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2018, 18:48The rake is about traction, not generating more downforce. The rake allows for a softer rear suspension, which will improve traction. Something that is really useful with these V6s.
People like to differentiate those three tracks based on downforce, but in reality, they differentiate largely on traction. And that is the thing that Mercedes have struggled with, and that is also why they perform so badly on these tracks.
If it actually was aero that was the differentiating factor, Mercedes would have sucked pretty badly in Barcelona, which they did not.
I believed the goal of a high rake car is to gain more df from the diffuser and increase the angle of attack of both the front and rear wings. You then run softer rear suspension so that at high speed the rear sits down, the angle of attack is reduced and the car sheds the df. So I think it’s more the softer suspension is a byproduct and the aero is the aim.wesley123 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2018, 20:43It's aero, however, isn't the goal.mantikos wrote: ↑27 Jul 2018, 20:22Sorry, you're wrong, it decidedly has an aero impact as wellwesley123 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2018, 18:48
The rake is about traction, not generating more downforce. The rake allows for a softer rear suspension, which will improve traction. Something that is really useful with these V6s.
People like to differentiate those three tracks based on downforce, but in reality, they differentiate largely on traction. And that is the thing that Mercedes have struggled with, and that is also why they perform so badly on these tracks.
If it actually was aero that was the differentiating factor, Mercedes would have sucked pretty badly in Barcelona, which they did not.
