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Just shows that you cannot "buy" championships. It helps ,,, a lot,, but it doesn't guarantee anything.It amazes me that Ferrari haven't been dominant for the last two decades, to be honest, as they have generally had the best budget/facilities of any team over that time period.
Ultimately, the team is bigger than the driver. Any driver.Andres125sx wrote: ↑17 Aug 2018, 18:00I can argue showing you how false that is with his agreement about sharing best strategies with Lewis, (a rookie!!), alternatively from first race, until Lewis tried to get the best strategy two consecutive races, wich was the instant Alonso tried to stop the boy, but it will be useless so let´s agree to disagree
Yeah rightFernando Alonso says a lack of track action in Formula 1, rather than his and McLaren's recent poor results, prompted his 2019 exit decision.
... If he was driving Ferrari, and he has only himself to blame that he is not, I bet F1 would be in the most wonderful state ever and action level just perfect. Exactly, and Alonso did nothing of those, he was always fair with his rivals on track, all he wanted was just what every driver wanted, a competitive car. Villeneuve told countless times that Schumacher was simply crashing his title-rivals to end their championship hunt but then all are "OH OMG the great Michael!". If Alonso did that his haters would still be talking! Senna also did the same as you mentioned and many other great names, and not just once... And then we're talking about Alonso coming in conflict with McLaren seeking for equality...strad wrote: ↑17 Aug 2018, 21:19Senna was an angel? Prost was perfect? Nigel the drama queen was not a perfect gentleman. Farina was willing to endanger his fellow drivers. Schumacher drove his brother and others to the wall and often gave other drivers the choice of crash or let him have his way.
Many of the drivers we consider to be greats were not all that great as human beings.
The correct spelling is "team principal" not "team principle."saviour stivala wrote: ↑17 Aug 2018, 08:42Apart from “attempting to blackmail his team principle” on the other side there was his team principle declaring (we were not racing Kimi, we were racing Alonso”. That one was as honest as they come and right from the horse mouth.
I agree. I don't understand the claims of him being egotistical or conspiratorial.strad wrote: ↑17 Aug 2018, 21:19Senna was an angel? Prost was perfect? Nigel the drama queen was not a perfect gentleman. Farina was willing to endanger his fellow drivers. Schumacher drove his brother and others to the wall and often gave other drivers the choice of crash or let him have his way.
Many of the drivers we consider to be greats were not all that great as human beings.
Not during Alonso's time unfortunately. Pat Fry was shocked at the level of infrastructure/facilities at Maranello when he joined compared to McLaren. The wind tunnel taking until half way through 2012 to start working properly is the most famous example but Red Bull and McLaren-Mercedes had bigger chassis budgets by some way as well.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑16 Aug 2018, 23:29Sadly, money buys the best engineers and the best facilities to make their ingenuity in to reality. It amazes me that Ferrari haven't been dominant for the last two decades, to be honest, as they have generally had the best budget/facilities of any team over that time period.
He had to make a change and he had no other option than getting into a new combination of a team and hope that it will work out well. New teams like Red Bull and Mercedes took their time and became winning, in fact, dominating teams, he hoped the new Mclaren Honda will be one of them. He gave Ferrari much than they deserved during the time he raced for them. Two WDCs missed in the last race and many many constructors points with the extra driving capabilities of his. Him staying at Ferrari may have lead him winning a title in 2017 or leading the standings this season. He didn't have any patience left so he moved. I can call it unlucky for him, Ferrari becoming a clear winning team on the grid after he left them.
Strategic mistakes were made – I’m talking here about errors of vision – very serious ones. And of course they haven’t always taken the best decisions regarding people.
“I’ll give you an example. In 2008 we in the racing department put in a request to construct a new wind tunnel. We considered it essential to remain competitive. We were told that this was not the case and that there was no need.
“In Ferrari all the decisions, on strategy and people, have always been taken by the president, Montezenolo. To be fair, he took them when Ferrari was winning everything and he also took them when Ferrari stopped winning.”
The tunnel at Maranello was converted from 50% scale to 60% scale, but it suffered from problems with calibration and Ferrari lost a lot of time as a result. They were forced to use Toyota’s tunnel in Cologne while the issues were resolved.
Ferrari is currently constructing a huge new complex in Maranello to house its race team, known as Gestione Sportiva (2014).
And what that means is that the organisation veers off to look at very short-term things. When I joined in 2010, there were quite a lot of things that were eight to 10 years out of date which we needed to fix. And these weren't quick fixes: it took just six months to work out what was wrong with the wind tunnel, and then another 18 months to fix it."
