2018 Singapore Grand Prix - Marina Bay, 14-16 September

[siskue2005]

Sums up the qualy really

[godlameroso]

I wonder if the difference in how they heat up the tires will have an effect in the race. The first stint on the hypersofts will be critical, I'm guessing they'll be pitting in lap 12-16 for ultras. I don't think the yellow tires are good for this race unless they're going for a safety car 1 stopper.

[cokata]

Hamilton had really good lap, no question, deserved pole. However it is not a true reflection of pace. Vettel's both laps were downright bad with lockups galore. He did get purple S1 but it went south from there on.

Throughout all qualy sessions, Ferrari was slower in S2 and S3 but fastest in S1. This means either overheating the rears or just setup the car more towards the race knowing they would win the front row ...

I ain't saying vettel beats hamilton, just that it would be much closer. I don't think laps prior to Q3 matter very much for the top cars. Even in Q2, when they had to go out on the hypers, they weren't using a lot of engine power (top speed some 15 kmh down comapred to their Q3 run).

Vettel's second Q3 lap, notice the lockup in S2:
https://streamable.com/ggdkx

Without it probably P2.

I have to agree. Looking at the telemetry from Vettel and Hamilton's lap Ferrari have a lot more pace on the straights, and in the final corner which is the only real high speed one on the track he took some 10 kph more there than Hamilton (granted he used wider line, but still).

The difference is must be in the slow speed stuff and on traction, but also in general Vettel's lap was poor. P2 was definitely on the cards. Just that lock-up probably was 2-3 tenths.

[MtthsMlw]

https://twitter.com/SkySportsF1/status/ ... 58177?s=19

[apexcontrol]

okay hamiton drives bottas on 7tenth but bottas is a known loser..... max did get 6tenth on ricardo who is know as a very solid driver with very good skills
its easy to see who did the beter lap. and who has the best car

best car lewis, best driver max no doubt about that.and tomorrow finaly we can see why.

merc and redbull will be closly matched tomorrow with out the mercedes party mode.
it's just waiting till we hear over the boardcom. hami to pitwall why i am d rating lol, just wait for it

alot of d rating for hamiton tomorrow

[ringo]

Hamilton had really good lap, no question, deserved pole. However it is not a true reflection of pace. Vettel's both laps were downright bad with lockups galore. He did get purple S1 but it went south from there on.

Throughout all qualy sessions, Ferrari was slower in S2 and S3 but fastest in S1. This means either overheating the rears or just setup the car more towards the race knowing they would win the front row ...

I ain't saying vettel beats hamilton, just that it would be much closer. I don't think laps prior to Q3 matter very much for the top cars. Even in Q2, when they had to go out on the hypers, they weren't using a lot of engine power (top speed some 15 kmh down comapred to their Q3 run).

Vettel's second Q3 lap, notice the lockup in S2:
https://streamable.com/ggdkx

Without it probably P2.

The ferrari looks more stable than the merc. Hamilton was doing lots of little counter steers on his lap and the merc was more jittery on the corner exits. I have a feeling the ferrari will have the better tyre deg and race pace. It looks like the easier car to drive fast. Hamilton may have commited more risk on that lap and vettel looked like he lost at least 0.5 seconds with the lock up and overtsteers. It's closer than we think. Hamilton has a fight on his hands. Not to forget that Max also has a good race car underneath him as well.

[Phillyred]

A shame renault engine is crap but anyway good position for max.

hehehe well who is gonna defend to the max against max.

hamilton can loose point and vettel also.

you know max will be coming with a all out attack
because he does not care and there is no wingman to help hamilton to block the field.

this gonna be some first lap, who has the balls to block or attack max.
i don't think lewis or vettel will because they will kill themselfs in the progress

so easy win for max if the PU doenst blow up.
or vettel or hami a dnf with archy bargy against max

and good to see redbull with a normal rearwing for a change

I can see your thought process here very clearly. I don't subscribe to logic either.

[Just_a_fan]

The ferrari looks more stable than the merc. Hamilton was doing lots of little counter steers on his lap and the merc was more jittery on the corner exits. I have a feeling the ferrari will have the better tyre deg and race pace. It looks like the easier car to drive fast.

On a street circuit where overtaking is tricky, it's easier to under drive the car to keep the tyres happy and just use the full beans in the overtaking places. At a "normal" track, that isn't so easy. At a street circuit, track position is king so it's a reasonable gamble to go for pole and manage the race - assuming one is leading at the end of the first lap, of course.

[GrandAxe]

okay hamiton drives bottas on 7tenth but bottas is a known loser..... max did get 6tenth on ricardo who is know as a very solid driver with very good skills
its easy to see who did the beter lap. and who has the best car

best car lewis, best driver max no doubt about that.and tomorrow finaly we can see why.

merc and redbull will be closly matched tomorrow with out the mercedes party mode.
it's just waiting till we hear over the boardcom. hami to pitwall why i am d rating lol, just wait for it

alot of d rating for hamiton tomorrow

D rating? Only ever heard of derating.

[apexcontrol]

A shame renault engine is crap but anyway good position for max.

hehehe well who is gonna defend to the max against max.

hamilton can loose point and vettel also.

you know max will be coming with a all out attack
because he does not care and there is no wingman to help hamilton to block the field.

this gonna be some first lap, who has the balls to block or attack max.
i don't think lewis or vettel will because they will kill themselfs in the progress

so easy win for max if the PU doenst blow up.
or vettel or hami a dnf with archy bargy against max

and good to see redbull with a normal rearwing for a change

I can see your thought process here very clearly. I don't subscribe to logic either.

point is in a equal car both vettel and hamilton will have no change.

[Morteza]

Best strategies according to Pirelli
https://twitter.com/pirellisport/status ... 9390663680
https://twitter.com/pirellisport/status ... 2688509952

[apexcontrol]

A shame renault engine is crap but anyway good position for max.

hehehe well who is gonna defend to the max against max.

hamilton can loose point and vettel also.

you know max will be coming with a all out attack
because he does not care and there is no wingman to help hamilton to block the field.

this gonna be some first lap, who has the balls to block or attack max.
i don't think lewis or vettel will because they will kill themselfs in the progress

so easy win for max if the PU doenst blow up.
or vettel or hami a dnf with archy bargy against max

and good to see redbull with a normal rearwing for a change

I can see your thought process here very clearly. I don't subscribe to logic either.

point is in a equal car both vettel and hamilton will have no change.

[NathanOlder]

@apexcontrol, Max has already said right after Qualy that the most important thing is to get through the opening lap. So that means he won't go all crazy like you say.

Great lap from Hamilton and Bottas matched Vettel and beat Kimi. So I'm not even that bothered now if Vettel finishes in front of Lewis tomorrow, Its clear now the Mercedes is the best car, so I can't see the title going to Ferrari now. Ferrari needed a front row lock out by a decent chunk. I feel the red team will now drop their heads and find it hard to go again. Mercedes on the other hand are currently at the highest of highs.

[GrandAxe]

https://twitter.com/SkySportsF1/status/ ... 58177?s=19

Haha! He could comfortably place his hand on the tyre, yet thought it was hot enough to fry an egg? I need some of that strong smoke, its the only way to "understand" this unfortunate new era of dumbed down TV.

[apexcontrol]

@apexcontrol, Max has already said right after Qualy that the most important thing is to get through the opening lap. So that means he won't go all crazy like you say.

Great lap from Hamilton and Bottas matched Vettel and beat Kimi. So I'm not even that bothered now if Vettel finishes in front of Lewis tomorrow, Its clear now the Mercedes is the best car, so I can't see the title going to Ferrari now. Ferrari needed a front row lock out by a decent chunk. I feel the red team will now drop their heads and find it hard to go again. Mercedes on the other hand are currently at the highest of highs.

he will go crazy first lap, because he know there nothing to gain, with a renault PU in the back.
0 score or win, nothing in between.

the only 2 guestions are: will the renault PU explode / or will vettel or hami have a crash with verstappen.
if neither happens verstappen wil win.there is no doubt the redbull is not much slower then merc or fer

orcourse the ferrari and mercedes are little bit faster, then the redbull but verstappen is faster then hami and vettel so he will have the advantage