2018 Brazilian Grand Prix - Interlagos, 9-11 November

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Juzh wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 21:23
MtthsMlw wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 21:02
https://twitter.com/wbuxtonofficial/sta ... 2697953283
Why can't you hear it on the onboard?
this guy is hamiltons boyfriend, always has been
Patently unfair criticism of Will Buxton.

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I have just watched the Vettel incident on the F1.com website and he does not turn his engine off at all whilst being weighed, the regulations clearly state that adriver is to report to the weighbridge (garage) stop and turnoff his engine. The regulations do not seem to cover the use of the "new" system of the pitlane scales" specifically so he may be able to argue his case.
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Sirotkin has been summoned to the stewards for driving too slowly on his inlap at at 15.18.....
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nevill3 wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 21:27
I have just watched the Vettel incident on the F1.com website and he does not turn his engine off at all whilst being weighed, the regulations clearly state that adriver is to report to the weighbridge (garage) stop and turnoff his engine. The regulations do not seem to cover the use of the "new" system of the pitlane scales" specifically so he may be able to argue his case.
To me it looked like he did turn his engine off.

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Juzh wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 21:23
MtthsMlw wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 21:02
https://twitter.com/wbuxtonofficial/sta ... 2697953283
Why can't you hear it on the onboard?
this guy is hamiltons boyfriend, always has been
dont be jealous if you are not as good looking and witty as Will.

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Hamilton, who went on to take pole position, claimed after qualifying that Sirotkin was in the wrong to attempt the overtake.

"Everyone was on an out-lap - me, Sergey, and everyone in front of me," he said.

"Valtteri [Bottas] was ahead of me and he was backing off to get his gap so I had to make sure I kept a gap to him.

"As far as I was aware there was no-one behind on a [fast] lap, so I was looking out, making sure I had a gap, and then all of a sudden out of Turn 11 I saw a car coming at high speed, so I was like: 'Oh my God, is that someone on a lap?'

"I went to move to the left, and that's where he decided to go. But he wasn't on a lap so I don't really know what his thinking was.


"Respectfully, between all the drivers, we all do respect [the gaps] - I could have tried to overtake Valtteri, or Valtteri whoever was in front of him. We all know [to] keep our space by that point.

"It was generally quite a disrespectful move. It was dangerous between us both."

Sirotkin slowed up after the near-miss and was passed back by Hamilton as they crossed the start-finish line to start their respective flying laps.

He briefly looked at overtaking Hamilton into Turn 1, but backed out of the move.

"It was kind of strange," Hamilton said. "It was completely unnecessary because he had a space behind him, so ultimately his lap and my lap weren't great. Hopefully he can learn from it."
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timbo wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 21:32
nevill3 wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 21:27
I have just watched the Vettel incident on the F1.com website and he does not turn his engine off at all whilst being weighed, the regulations clearly state that adriver is to report to the weighbridge (garage) stop and turnoff his engine. The regulations do not seem to cover the use of the "new" system of the pitlane scales" specifically so he may be able to argue his case.
To me it looked like he did turn his engine off.
It is difficult because the vid and sound is a bit off sync also when the pit wall is talking you cannot hear from vettel but I think his engine is on. I think I hear an idle engine sound but cannot tell 100%. It is easy to tell for stewards and guys trying to weigh him though. People around him are slow moving because Vettel is not following protocol and they are "what the hell is going on?!". :D

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nevill3 wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 21:27
I have just watched the Vettel incident on the F1.com website and he does not turn his engine off at all whilst being weighed, the regulations clearly state that adriver is to report to the weighbridge (garage) stop and turnoff his engine. The regulations do not seem to cover the use of the "new" system of the pitlane scales" specifically so he may be able to argue his case.
you deaf? the enginen is off and at 0 rpm

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timbo wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 21:32


To me it looked like he did turn his engine off.
I watched it with headphones on and you can clearly hear the engine running and if you look carefully at the steering wheel there are still items on the display
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timbo wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 21:32
nevill3 wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 21:27
I have just watched the Vettel incident on the F1.com website and he does not turn his engine off at all whilst being weighed, the regulations clearly state that adriver is to report to the weighbridge (garage) stop and turnoff his engine. The regulations do not seem to cover the use of the "new" system of the pitlane scales" specifically so he may be able to argue his case.
To me it looked like he did turn his engine off.
yes he did turn it off and started it using the KERS after the official moved over

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nevill3 wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 21:43
timbo wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 21:32


To me it looked like he did turn his engine off.
I watched it with headphones on and you can clearly hear the engine running and if you look carefully at the steering wheel there are still items on the display
I think it's enough to look at the steering wheel. The lights on the upper part which show how much the engine is revved up shut off completely. When in idle, you can normally see just a single green light on the left side.

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Would the fia really get it that wrong about him having his engine on or off? Surely if they say it was on it was on.

They have more data than a dodgy playback like us (with out of sync sound and graphics which dont always work properly anyway) and they have the people who were there who would have likely been the ones to report it.

Im sure vettel when asked post quali would have said no i turned my engine off

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LM10 wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 21:52
nevill3 wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 21:43
timbo wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 21:32


To me it looked like he did turn his engine off.
I watched it with headphones on and you can clearly hear the engine running and if you look carefully at the steering wheel there are still items on the display
I think it's enough to look at the steering wheel. The lights on the upper part which show how much the engine is revved up shut off completely. When in idle, you can normally see just a single green light on the left side.
Maybe they simply refer that he did not switch off his engine before he rolled on the scales. I dont know how sensible they are, maybe they get shot by engine vibrations alone. The car had the engine running when he drove on the cells. If only one cell was shot, it could mean that computer cant or wont take the proper reading and fall into an error.
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Regarding Sirotkins fast out lap

Sergey Sirotkin:
It was a good session with tricky conditions which is always good for us. When it’s cloudy and damp, we always perform better. The car felt very good, I had one run less than everyone else in Q1 and managed to get through which is positive for us. We went into Q2 thinking the rain would come, and when I exited the pits, due to the changeable conditions the scrubbed tyres were cold meaning I had to push hard to generate temperature. On my lap, I had to slow down to avoid Lewis, which in turn meant putting a wheel on the grass and ruining the lap. Overall, it was a good session and we are happy with the performance.

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Ted Kravitz reporting Seb did eventually turn his engine off.

Im betting a slap on the wrist then for satisfying the regs but not following protocol (as in driving on and off the scales instead of being pushed)