Damn, you're right. I somehow got the two mixed up. Then Hamilton just really gave it away himself in S1, well done to Bottas then. I really think though that Leclerc would have had this one in the bag. Easily. He was consistently quicker than Vettel throughout the weekend on pretty much all runs until he binned it and I think he would have aced it in Q3.Schuttelberg wrote: ↑27 Apr 2019, 17:11Bottas was behind Hamilton on both runs and Hamilton benefitted a lot on the first run from the tow.
you were so right damnyener wrote: ↑27 Apr 2019, 13:25After the Qualifying session Lewis will tell this:
It's unbelieveable, Ferrari was so fast. But the team did a great job and gave us the first start row, i did not expect it. I want to thank the engineer and all mechanics. We found the sweet spot and hopefully we can stay at front of the ferrari's tomorrow.
It really goes to show that, with these cars, the most ‘interesting’ track on paper is not the best for the spectacle. Baku is pretty much just 90 degree turns plus a massive straight, but that actually makes for a much more interesting race than, say, Suzukadigitalrurouni wrote: ↑27 Apr 2019, 17:48Lovely qualifying session. Well done Baku. Love the compromise between downforce and speed and an evolving track. The more the variables the more interesting the on track action.
It depends, realistically Baku is a terrible race, but it's a great destruction derby round. The last race outside of the few laps with crashes, everything else was absolutely dull as dishwater and that is the case every season.f1316 wrote: ↑27 Apr 2019, 18:16It really goes to show that, with these cars, the most ‘interesting’ track on paper is not the best for the spectacle. Baku is pretty much just 90 degree turns plus a massive straight, but that actually makes for a much more interesting race than, say, Suzukadigitalrurouni wrote: ↑27 Apr 2019, 17:48Lovely qualifying session. Well done Baku. Love the compromise between downforce and speed and an evolving track. The more the variables the more interesting the on track action.
No Phil, Hamilton was behind Bottas on both runs. You were right, Schuttelberg is wrong.Phil wrote: ↑27 Apr 2019, 17:36Damn, you're right. I somehow got the two mixed up. Then Hamilton just really gave it away himself in S1, well done to Bottas then. I really think though that Leclerc would have had this one in the bag. Easily. He was consistently quicker than Vettel throughout the weekend on pretty much all runs until he binned it and I think he would have aced it in Q3.Schuttelberg wrote: ↑27 Apr 2019, 17:11Bottas was behind Hamilton on both runs and Hamilton benefitted a lot on the first run from the tow.
Mercedes was extremely close though, but I think both their cars were profiting of a tow vs Ferrari who didn't? The temperature just might have helped them too. Anyway, I stand by my predictions - I don't think Bottas will hold his position to win the race. And statistically, I don't think anyone since Rosberg has been able to converted a pole position into a win here. Just too much that can happen and once there's a safety car, keeping that position on the restart with that long straight is incredibly tough and difficult.
I genuinely meant to say Hamilton was behind Bottas on both runs. My bad.NathanOlder wrote: ↑27 Apr 2019, 18:39No Phil, Hamilton was behind Bottas on both runs. You were right, Schuttelberg is wrong.Phil wrote: ↑27 Apr 2019, 17:36Damn, you're right. I somehow got the two mixed up. Then Hamilton just really gave it away himself in S1, well done to Bottas then. I really think though that Leclerc would have had this one in the bag. Easily. He was consistently quicker than Vettel throughout the weekend on pretty much all runs until he binned it and I think he would have aced it in Q3.Schuttelberg wrote: ↑27 Apr 2019, 17:11Bottas was behind Hamilton on both runs and Hamilton benefitted a lot on the first run from the tow.
Mercedes was extremely close though, but I think both their cars were profiting of a tow vs Ferrari who didn't? The temperature just might have helped them too. Anyway, I stand by my predictions - I don't think Bottas will hold his position to win the race. And statistically, I don't think anyone since Rosberg has been able to converted a pole position into a win here. Just too much that can happen and once there's a safety car, keeping that position on the restart with that long straight is incredibly tough and difficult.
I genuinely think HAM was more concerned about crossing the line in time to get the lap in rather than keeping the best distance for the tow. Commentators said something about 5secs left for BOT I think when he crossed the line; would’ve been much tighter for HAMPhil wrote: ↑27 Apr 2019, 18:56Ok, so I just checked too; First run, Bottas was ahead of Hamilton. Second Q3 run, Hamilton was stacked up behind Bottas after they left the pits and let everyone pass. Hamilton was also behind during the whole lap. So then yes, I stand behind my original thoughts that I felt that Hamilton was way too close to Bottas during the entire run. He was constantly around 2 seconds behind Bottas.
It's one thing to have a tow before you get onto your first lap or perhaps to get a tow when you end it, but I do think the cons of heating up your tires on your outlap and being distracted by the car just ahead of you outweighs the benefit of tow (not to mention Bottas said he had a tow too, presumably of whoever was in front- Norris at end?). Anyway, no hard feelings. I think whoever will start from pole will be jinxed anyway.