2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

[Jackles-UK]

sainz's P4 lap from fp2

https://streamable.com/1t8vs

Front end still looks a little bit lazy but the car generally seems nicely balanced. Traction looks good out of the slow corners and the tiny lock up into the T10 hairpin but probably lost minimal time due to being able to take a few different lines through there. Bodes well for tomorrow & Sunday.

[zoroastar]

McLaren will be in a good place in 2021.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/14394 ... 175million

not so much - the article states that the current higher spenders are in the 200-250 mil range (of capped spending), makes one wonder what that other 100-200 millon the top 3 spend is

they spend it on the stuff that makes it practically impossible for teams spending only 150 M to catch them. i think mclaren is in a spot where they wont be affected near as much as RB, ferrari or MB. i believe they spend 150+ if memory serves me right.

[zoroastar]

david croft on sky sports tried getting jenson button to say that sainz's time was probably because he was running with less fuel than anyone else, and when JB stated that there would be no reason for any of the frontrunners to run more fuel for qualy testing, he quickly changed the subject. is autosport owned by sky or something? they need to stick david hobbs in his spot and be done with it. the guy tries too hard to be funny and isnt at all, whereas DH is just funny without meaning to be. but then again david hobbs is probably pushing 80 years old now.

[Lucky]

Norris does seem to have a lot more understeer in the car than Carlos

Lando used the old floor
https://twitter.com/McLarenF1/status/11 ... 36224?s=19

[geogate]

McLaren will be in a good place in 2021.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/14394 ... 175million

not so much - the article states that the current higher spenders are in the 200-250 mil range (of capped spending), makes one wonder what that other 100-200 millon the top 3 spend is

they spend it on the stuff that makes it practically impossible for teams spending only 150 M to catch them. i think mclaren is in a spot where they wont be affected near as much as RB, ferrari or MB. i believe they spend 150+ if memory serves me right.

think you missed the point. It is said Merc and Ferrari have operating budgets over 400 million, RB about 350. The article states that the current top teams are spending 200-250 on those areas that will fall under the budget cap, meaning there is nearly the same again that would not fall under the budget cap. Now I suspect that hospitality, Marketing and Driver salary may be areas that fall outside the cap, but there must be other areas for it to be such a huge discrepancy. Given that there obviously many areas of operating costs that a cap wont cover, I imagine Mclaren will be well inside the cap figure already
Edit - just looked at article again and it mentions areas that outside the cap - sure that wasnt there first time I read it, but I gues Im old and senile

[geogate]

is autosport owned by sky or something?

dont know who owns it, but the parent company I believe is Motorsport Network, and the chair is one Zak Brown

[FittingMechanics]

sainz's P4 lap from fp2

https://streamable.com/1t8vs

Went a bit deep/lockedup in the hairpin, I'm sure he could have went a bit faster like everyone else.

david croft on sky sports tried getting jenson button to say that sainz's time was probably because he was running with less fuel than anyone else, and when JB stated that there would be no reason for any of the frontrunners to run more fuel for qualy testing, he quickly changed the subject. is autosport owned by sky or something? they need to stick david hobbs in his spot and be done with it. the guy tries too hard to be funny and isnt at all, whereas DH is just funny without meaning to be. but then again david hobbs is probably pushing 80 years old now.

They are trying to get their head around the information they are getting, McLaren being slow obviously must be running less fuel. Even though there is really no reason to do so, even though they didn't do it in previous races, etc. It's just trying to find an "easy" explanation for what is happening on track. It's much harder for journalist to understand if the car is actually faster on pace, or if a driver found a sweetspot in the setup that plays into his hands. Much easier to just shout "low fuel" to fit the previous narrative.

Button obviously understands that teams usually run their programmes roughly the same in FP2 and that the variability in pace could be due to many factors.


PS. I love the fact that the team is very humble in their statements.

[FittingMechanics]

dont know who owns it, but the parent company I believe is Motorsport Network, and the chair is one Zak Brown

That makes it that much more strange. Autosport had a relatively clear bias against McLaren prior to the season, writing off any good result from McLaren as "glory runs". We can remember when they were saying McLaren was only faster than Williams.

[RonDennis]

McLaren will be in a good place in 2021.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/14394 ... 175million

not so much - the article states that the current higher spenders are in the 200-250 mil range (of capped spending), makes one wonder what that other 100-200 millon the top 3 spend is

Drivers, senior management and engines. So yes it will help them massively. Only $175 million can be spend on the car and that's a figure McLaren is probably already close to, while the others have to scale back big time.

[BrunoH]

Mclaren Looking good, as predicted for this track, similar to baku. The car is less dragy this year, they are still using a big slimmer wings but its the best track for them of the year i belive.
still looks like tires might be an issue according to fp2 they are not lasting long. going to be a fun race!

[BrunoH]

just looks at the p4 lap from Sainz, and at least in low fuel it seems they have sorted the understear. very encouraging.

[Xero]

dont know who owns it, but the parent company I believe is Motorsport Network, and the chair is one Zak Brown

That makes it that much more strange. Autosport had a relatively clear bias against McLaren prior to the season, writing off any good result from McLaren as "glory runs". We can remember when they were saying McLaren was only faster than Williams.

I've often commented about the bias, but I'm starting to wonder if they've been told to downplay McLaren to keep expectations in check. The media frenzy surrounding McLaren over the past few years have led to a lot of negative responses, particularly from the Honda fan camp, with team comments being twisted and exaggerated. If Zak has any influence on the Motorsport Network, it would make sense for them to soften any wild expectations so their actual progress speaks for itself. It seems to be working, the media approach has been much more forgiving this season, and McLaren's image outwith their fans is improving.

[diffuser]

Both cars will fail to reach Q3

Well thanks for that who u are man adrian Newey'son !!!

We're gonna change his name to groanF1

[izzy]

dont know who owns it, but the parent company I believe is Motorsport Network, and the chair is one Zak Brown

That makes it that much more strange. Autosport had a relatively clear bias against McLaren prior to the season, writing off any good result from McLaren as "glory runs". We can remember when they were saying McLaren was only faster than Williams.

I've often commented about the bias, but I'm starting to wonder if they've been told to downplay McLaren to keep expectations in check. The media frenzy surrounding McLaren over the past few years have led to a lot of negative responses, particularly from the Honda fan camp, with team comments being twisted and exaggerated. If Zak has any influence on the Motorsport Network, it would make sense for them to soften any wild expectations so their actual progress speaks for itself. It seems to be working, the media approach has been much more forgiving this season, and McLaren's image outwith their fans is improving.

A lot of it was Red Bull if you ask me, out to get Cyril. There's been this constant story how Honda have been doing really really well with Wunderful Red Bull after escaping from Horrid McLaren, so it was McLaren holding Honda back all this time but Red Bull are sooo positive to work with really honestly, and now Mac are still hopeless with Renault, as Renault are terrible.

And then some of it was real: last year's car was a dog, Zak is short and fat , and Renault were terrible last year too, so there was plenty to work with.

And on top of that a lot of fans i think have been fed up with Ron's great old team descending into failure. But it's f1, it can all be turned round, starting today perhaps

[_cerber1]

Friday analysis.

https://twitter.com/ScarbsTech/status/1 ... 4084802560