2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

[Marti_EF3]

It is a risky plan. Because the other one is Gasly.

Even Gasly can drive a car in a straight and go out of the way in time. He might not be the GOAT but I am sure that can be trusted too him, but nobody in RB thought of this unfortunately

He was indeed +0.4, but that lap appears to be removed. Probably went wide in turn 1 or the last one.

Well, at least I saw it correctly then. But they deleted the lap later on

[Datco]

Did i see right, Lewis exceeded track limits on Q1 final lap. He even went out again on an out lap but aborted before completing the lap. If so Max should have been on pole.

I checked it again, both of Lewis Q1 laps should have been disqualified.

Was it in turn 1 or turn 17?

Final turn, before finish line

[Wouter]

I checked it again, both of Lewis Q1 laps should have been disqualified.

Was it in turn 1 or turn 17?

Final turn, before finish line

I looked at this at 4.05 min. Aren't Bottas, Max and Pierre doing the same thing? I also thought it wasn't allowed.



Here is the onboard.

[Datco]

Was it in turn 1 or turn 17?

Final turn, before finish line

I looked at this at 4.05 min. Aren't Bottas, Max and Pierre doing the same thing? I also thought it wasn't allowed.

https://youtu.be/EtBv_kbo604?t=249

Here is the onboard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh2pzFreJ9k

Q3 was on the limit, one wheel still touching the track so still fine. Lewis Q1 lap was all four wheels outside the white line

[IvailoStefanovBG]

Final turn, before finish line

I looked at this at 4.05 min. Aren't Bottas, Max and Pierre doing the same thing? I also thought it wasn't allowed.

https://youtu.be/EtBv_kbo604?t=249

Here is the onboard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh2pzFreJ9k

Q3 was on the limit, one wheel still touching the track so still fine. Lewis Q1 lap was all four wheels outside the white line

These are rules about track limits for Hockenheimring 2019.
Track Limits - Turn 1 and Turn 17
9.1 Turn 1
A car will be deemed to have exceeded the Track Limits at the exit of Turn 1 if any part of the car passes to
the left of the blue and white exit kerb.
9.2 Turn 17
A car will be deemed to have exceeded the Track Limits at the exit of Turn 17 if any part of the car passes
to the left of the blue and white exit kerb.
9.3 The above requirements will not automatically apply to any driver who is judged to have been forced off
the track, each such case will be judged individually.
9.4 In all cases detailed above, the driver must only re-join the track when it is safe to do so and without gaining
a lasting advantage.

[Wouter]

Q3 was on the limit, one wheel still touching the track so still fine. Lewis Q1 lap was all four wheels outside the white line

Sorry, I thought you said Q3. I didn't see you wrote Q1. Thanks for your answers.

[Juzh]

both q3 laps from verstappen. couple of things i noticed:

- much higher apex speed in turn 1 on second lap, ~280 kmh with almost no lift at all . This is the highest i've seen from any car this weekend.
- he is almost 2 tenths up on second lap at the end of the long straight
- it seems red bull strugles in T8 compared to mercedes. Suboptimal lines on both runs, second one in particular being very bad with oversteer exit and even having to lift for the right hander, losing all advantage gained with a very good S1
- carrying higher speed trough T11 on second run as well, by quite a bit
- combination of both laps would put him level with hamilton, but it has to be said hamilton also didn't put a good lap together. therefore i believe actual difference between them to be somewhat geniune, maybe a tenth in it

https://streamable.com/ucfhc

[Tzk]

Q3 was on the limit, one wheel still touching the track so still fine. Lewis Q1 lap was all four wheels outside the white line

I think you got the rules wrong. They must fully stay on the blue/white curbs in turn 1 and 17. the usual „one wheel must be on the track“ rule doesn‘t apply here.

[loner]

thnx Juzh
this site should add a dedicated multimedia section honoring your efforts in this forum.

[etusch]

thnx Juzh
this site should add a dedicated multimedia section honoring your efforts in this forum.

+1

[Marti_EF3]

Wow, the top speed of the 2nd run was awesome! 330kmh

[Marti_EF3]

Quali speed traps



Albon with 340.9

And RBR is equal to Merc, so maybe they are more or less on the same level of DF (thinking about a possible rain tomorrow and going with a bit more of DF?)

[Juzh]

thnx Juzh
this site should add a dedicated multimedia section honoring your efforts in this forum.

thanks mate, just enjoy the clips. i've been thinking of doing a separate thread where i'd put all links to onboard footage, but then I came to conclusion that having a centralised and easy access way of getting the links would quickly attract attention of FOM and blocks would soon follow, as they always have so far when videos got too much traffic.

[godlameroso]

both q3 laps from verstappen. couple of things i noticed:

- much higher apex speed in turn 1 on second lap, ~280 kmh with almost no lift at all . This is the highest i've seen from any car this weekend.
- he is almost 2 tenths up on second lap at the end of the long straight
- it seems red bull strugles in T8 compared to mercedes. Suboptimal lines on both runs, second one in particular being very bad with oversteer exit and even having to lift for the right hander, losing all advantage gained with a very good S1
- carrying higher speed trough T11 on second run as well, by quite a bit
- combination of both laps would put him level with hamilton, but it has to be said hamilton also didn't put a good lap together. therefore i believe actual difference between them to be somewhat geniune, maybe a tenth in it

https://streamable.com/ucfhc
https://streamable.com/ucfhc

It's a very difficult track to be consistent in. As you noted, sector 1 isn't terribly important to the lap, much more important is the sequence from 6 - 11, I think Verstappen lost and gained all his time there. Often times you can botch sectors 1 and 3 and still have a good lap if you nail sector 2, and vice versa. Being able to carry more speed through 9 is the hardest part of the lap, that and nailing the entry for 11 and 1 because they're such high speed corners helps a lot. However it makes braking for 2 more difficult.

[Artur Craft]

both q3 laps from verstappen. couple of things i noticed:

- much higher apex speed in turn 1 on second lap, ~280 kmh with almost no lift at all . This is the highest i've seen from any car this weekend.

The lines are similar, so it was really just a matter of carrying more speed

- it seems red bull strugles in T8 compared to mercedes. Suboptimal lines on both runs, second one in particular being very bad with oversteer exit and even having to lift for the right hander, losing all advantage gained with a very good S1

Yes, even Davidson noticed that on his analysis

- carrying higher speed trough T11 on second run as well, by quite a bit

Here you can see that the line was better on the second run, hence the higher speed, unlike on T1

- combination of both laps would put him level with hamilton, but it has to be said hamilton also didn't put a good lap together. therefore i believe actual difference between them to be somewhat geniune, maybe a tenth in it

Raikkonen was probably the only one with a clean "perfect" lap. All others seems to have made many mistakes on both runs