2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

[Big Tea]

It's going to be difficult, but possible. If Hamilton wins again twice and Verstappen doesn't podium, this year's chance is gone. Verstappen has to start beating Hamilton, the car and driver have the race pace but maybe not the quali pace. Front row starts would be ideal, but getting by 2 Mercedes, even if Bottas is slower than Verstappen, isn't easy.

The only hope is that Ferrari can also steal a few wins, anything other than Mercedes 1-2. The chance is slim, but it is still there.

They can certainly be in contention next round

There would also seem to be a resurgent Ferrari and Forceing point in the mix for the second half of the season and it would be difficult to get premium scores. It would be some achievement if he does though.

[Bill]

Max will win Hungary,spa ,Singapore,Japan,Mexico,&brazil those tracks should suit Rbr chassis

[godlameroso]

Spa?! I honestly think in perfect conditions that will be Ferrari's race to lose.

Suzuka also is a very good chance for Ferrari, as there aren't many slow corners. But by then Honda's mill will evolve to its final form.

[Marti_EF3]

Spa?! I honestly think in perfect conditions that will be Ferrari's race to lose.

Suzuka also is a very good chance for Ferrari, as there aren't many slow corners. But by then Honda's mill will evolve to its final form.

Suzuka Special Spec 5 will come true?? If yes, it may be a race to win. It would be tremendous to win at Japan

[Pyrone89]

It's going to be difficult, but possible. If Hamilton wins again twice and Verstappen doesn't podium, this year's chance is gone. Verstappen has to start beating Hamilton, the car and driver have the race pace but maybe not the quali pace. Front row starts would be ideal, but getting by 2 Mercedes, even if Bottas is slower than Verstappen, isn't easy.

The only hope is that Ferrari can also steal a few wins, anything other than Mercedes 1-2. The chance is slim, but it is still there.

They can certainly be in contention next round

For this to happen we need like 4 or 5 more wins and a bumch of Merc DNF’s. Not likely.

[Pyrone89]

Spa?! I honestly think in perfect conditions that will be Ferrari's race to lose.

Suzuka also is a very good chance for Ferrari, as there aren't many slow corners. But by then Honda's mill will evolve to its final form.

Suzuka Special Spec 5 will come true?? If yes, it may be a race to win. It would be tremendous to win at Japan

No spec 4 but with new fuel and optimized mappings and being allowed to go to highest engine modes.

[Bill]

Spa Ferrari would probably qualify on pole because of the powerful engine mode but as we have learned those mode only works in quali they can't even use it to defend position and there racepace have been poor they have yet to master tires . As for Mercedes their high drag philosophy would be a handycap

[IvailoStefanovBG]

Spa Ferrari would probably qualify on pole because of the powerful engine mode but as we have learned those mode only works in quali they can't even use it to defend position and there racepace have been poor they have yet to master tires . As for Mercedes their high drag philosophy would be a handycap

I think at Spa Honda will have better quali mode than Ferrari...

[Jolle]

Spa Ferrari would probably qualify on pole because of the powerful engine mode but as we have learned those mode only works in quali they can't even use it to defend position and there racepace have been poor they have yet to master tires . As for Mercedes their high drag philosophy would be a handycap

I think at Spa Honda will have better quali mode than Ferrari...

Knowledge or hope?

[IvailoStefanovBG]

Spa Ferrari would probably qualify on pole because of the powerful engine mode but as we have learned those mode only works in quali they can't even use it to defend position and there racepace have been poor they have yet to master tires . As for Mercedes their high drag philosophy would be a handycap

I think at Spa Honda will have better quali mode than Ferrari...

Knowledge or hope?

I said "I think" so it`s only hope for sure. But if you follow the logic of development Honda engine already have everything except competitive qualifying mode. With the latest update they added the most important thing - efficiency. Due to Tanabe san they have the durability with v.3.0. Now with the little info we have they will bring power (25HP) what is needed for qualifying most.

[gokarter]

Spa Ferrari would probably qualify on pole because of the powerful engine mode but as we have learned those mode only works in quali they can't even use it to defend position and there racepace have been poor they have yet to master tires . As for Mercedes their high drag philosophy would be a handycap

those qualy mode are very dodgy. for me they use extra battery knowing well they can get away with it knowing FIA will ignore it completely. look at Haas, slow race pace but gains huge time in qualy. shame the FIA are allowing this to happen. I reckon honda in the race engine mode is top notch.

[godlameroso]

It's going to be difficult, but possible. If Hamilton wins again twice and Verstappen doesn't podium, this year's chance is gone. Verstappen has to start beating Hamilton, the car and driver have the race pace but maybe not the quali pace. Front row starts would be ideal, but getting by 2 Mercedes, even if Bottas is slower than Verstappen, isn't easy.

The only hope is that Ferrari can also steal a few wins, anything other than Mercedes 1-2. The chance is slim, but it is still there.

They can certainly be in contention next round

For this to happen we need like 4 or 5 more wins and a bumch of Merc DNF’s. Not likely.

If we look at it on paper it's a 62 point deficit. If Max wins and Hamilton comes 2nd that's 7 points gained, 8 if Verstappen gets fastest lap. There are 10 rounds to go. If Verstappen wins 8 in a row + fastest lap and Hamilton comes 2nd 8 times in a row Verstappen will take the lead with 2 races to go. If Verstappen only takes victory and no fastest laps it will take 9 victories in a row to take the lead. If we have another 26 point haul over Hamilton at any time during the season, and the Red Bull package takes that next step to fight on equal footing it's game on. As Hamilton's advantage would only be 36 points, something Max can overcome given equally fast cars and a full third of the season to go.

If he pulled it off it would be one of the greatest comebacks in racing since Raikkonen took the title in 2007.

[MtthsMlw]

Spa Ferrari would probably qualify on pole because of the powerful engine mode but as we have learned those mode only works in quali they can't even use it to defend position and there racepace have been poor they have yet to master tires . As for Mercedes their high drag philosophy would be a handycap

those qualy mode are very dodgy. for me they use extra battery knowing well they can get away with it knowing FIA will ignore it completely. look at Haas, slow race pace but gains huge time in qualy. shame the FIA are allowing this to happen. I reckon honda in the race engine mode is top notch.

Not gonna comment on your random accusations but no team is using their full blown quali modes in the race since you don't wanna end up with an empty battery in the next lap and be a sitting duck. Ferrari's magic is having more energy to spend during one lap via some clever or simply very efficient MGU-H recovery.

[HPD]

Christian Horner, Red Bull team principal, explained that the start of the race was really terrible ...
"It was horrible because both cars had a problem at the beginning, so we will have to analyze carefully what happened. Max did not lose his head and quickly took the Mercedes with him".

Did you understand what happened?
"I think it was a mapping problem, but I think it is something that we are handling in our relationship with Honda. A similar situation could have been repeated in Austria".

Pierre Gasly thought he would not move ...
"Yes, the rear wheels continued to skate. And the same thing happened with all the gears, so we'll have to figure out what actually happened."
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/horne ... 36/?nrt=54

[Jolle]

It's going to be difficult, but possible. If Hamilton wins again twice and Verstappen doesn't podium, this year's chance is gone. Verstappen has to start beating Hamilton, the car and driver have the race pace but maybe not the quali pace. Front row starts would be ideal, but getting by 2 Mercedes, even if Bottas is slower than Verstappen, isn't easy.

The only hope is that Ferrari can also steal a few wins, anything other than Mercedes 1-2. The chance is slim, but it is still there.

They can certainly be in contention next round

For this to happen we need like 4 or 5 more wins and a bumch of Merc DNF’s. Not likely.

If we look at it on paper it's a 62 point deficit. If Max wins and Hamilton comes 2nd that's 7 points gained, 8 if Verstappen gets fastest lap. There are 10 rounds to go. If Verstappen wins 8 in a row + fastest lap and Hamilton comes 2nd 8 times in a row Verstappen will take the lead with 2 races to go. If Verstappen only takes victory and no fastest laps it will take 9 victories in a row to take the lead. If we have another 26 point haul over Hamilton at any time during the season, and the Red Bull package takes that next step to fight on equal footing it's game on. As Hamilton's advantage would only be 36 points, something Max can overcome given equally fast cars and a full third of the season to go.

If he pulled it off it would be one of the greatest comebacks in racing since Raikkonen took the title in 2007.

Not just that, he's closed in on Bottas because of his crash this weekend. Verstappen/RedBull were consistently behind the Mercedes drivers for the whole season except Austria, even during the German Grand Prix, they were at least at equal footing. RedBull needs another step to be challengers next year.