2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

[etusch]

Helmut Marco 'announced' early in the year that Red Bull Honda would have '5 wins' this year and everyone called him a buffoon.

I suspect that if they do get 5 wins (or more) over the season not only he but the whole team will be delighted. Beating Ferrari in the process would be the icing on the cake, but I really can not see them challenging Mercedes as they have been scoring with one driver, or Max catching Lewis because he has a team mate capable of taking points off Max and Max does not have an aid v Lewis.

Which ever way it goes, no one can say they have not already had an exceptional season. Possibly worth switching full attention to next years car earlier to get a jump on Mercedes ?
Red Bull is happy
Honda id happy
Max is happy
a few hundred thousand Dutchmen ate happy
lets have some more cracking races and a few million happy GP fans.

They have to push to finish p1 for wdc and let Ferrari and Mercedes itself do other part. Wcc is not that important compared wdc

[dtro]

That's muh boi! Go Max! VTEC!!

[Big Tea]

Helmut Marco 'announced' early in the year that Red Bull Honda would have '5 wins' this year and everyone called him a buffoon.

I suspect that if they do get 5 wins (or more) over the season not only he but the whole team will be delighted. Beating Ferrari in the process would be the icing on the cake, but I really can not see them challenging Mercedes as they have been scoring with one driver, or Max catching Lewis because he has a team mate capable of taking points off Max and Max does not have an aid v Lewis.

Which ever way it goes, no one can say they have not already had an exceptional season. Possibly worth switching full attention to next years car earlier to get a jump on Mercedes ?
Red Bull is happy
Honda id happy
Max is happy
a few hundred thousand Dutchmen ate happy
lets have some more cracking races and a few million happy GP fans.

They have to push to finish p1 for wdc and let Ferrari and Mercedes itself do other part. Wcc is not that important compared wdc

For Max may be, but it is for team Red Bull, its why they are there.

[subcritical71]

Helmut Marco 'announced' early in the year that Red Bull Honda would have '5 wins' this year and everyone called him a buffoon.

I suspect that if they do get 5 wins (or more) over the season not only he but the whole team will be delighted. Beating Ferrari in the process would be the icing on the cake, but I really can not see them challenging Mercedes as they have been scoring with one driver, or Max catching Lewis because he has a team mate capable of taking points off Max and Max does not have an aid v Lewis.

Which ever way it goes, no one can say they have not already had an exceptional season. Possibly worth switching full attention to next years car earlier to get a jump on Mercedes ?
Red Bull is happy
Honda id happy
Max is happy
a few hundred thousand Dutchmen ate happy
lets have some more cracking races and a few million happy GP fans.

They have to push to finish p1 for wdc and let Ferrari and Mercedes itself do other part. Wcc is not that important compared wdc

For Max may be, but it is for team Red Bull, its why they are there.

I’d agree. The WCC pays the teams bills at the end of the day. The WDC only boosts the driver. I’m not saying the team doesn’t want both, but if left to choose one or the other I would think WCC is preferred.

[Capharol]

They have to push to finish p1 for wdc and let Ferrari and Mercedes itself do other part. Wcc is not that important compared wdc

For Max may be, but it is for team Red Bull, its why they are there.

I’d agree. The WCC pays the teams bills at the end of the day. The WDC only boosts the driver. I’m not saying the team doesn’t want both, but if left to choose one or the other I would think WCC is preferred.

ask that a Hamilton or a Verstappen ... i think they choose the WDC above WCC

[Big Tea]

For Max may be, but it is for team Red Bull, its why they are there.

I’d agree. The WCC pays the teams bills at the end of the day. The WDC only boosts the driver. I’m not saying the team doesn’t want both, but if left to choose one or the other I would think WCC is preferred.

ask that a Hamilton or a Verstappen ... i think they choose the WDC above WCC

But without Mercedes or Red bull they could not, no matter how much they want it.

[Capharol]

and without a Hamilton or Verstappen they wouldn't get it, look at Gasly for example if you have two of those in a team you're screwed .....

[Sieper]

WDC is by far the bigger price. People remember who was WDC and in what car, If that car was also WCC in that year much less people know. Ofcourse the Price money is Nice.

[subcritical71]

From a business perspective people remembering doesn’t pay the bills. The context I was agreeing with is that the team values the WCC. I also agree that the driver values the WDC. If a team needs to choose which one they get, if that choice is limited to one or the other, it will be the WCC. The difference in prize money between places is very substantial.

[AJI]

WDC is by far the bigger price. People remember who was WDC and in what car, If that car was also WCC in that year much less people know. Ofcourse the Price money is Nice.

Absolutely. The number 1 only goes on the WDC car (although it's been so long since we've seen it I don't blame anyone for forgetting its existence).
RB are there for publicity, not cash.

[Jaisonas]

Just a small question cause i dont remember the regulations well: Assuming they swap Gasly and Kvyat, doesnt redbull lose Gasly's 60 or so points from its WCC? If they're fighting for second at this point, i dont thing its easy to regain everything from 0 even with Kvyat, assuming thats how it works.

[Singabule]

Just a small question cause i dont remember the regulations well: Assuming they swap Gasly and Kvyat, doesnt redbull lose Gasly's 60 or so points from its WCC? If they're fighting for second at this point, i dont thing its easy to regain everything from 0 even with Kvyat, assuming thats how it works.

Its not affecting WCC and WDC, all can take the points

[Singabule]

Cannot believe why this guy is allowed to finish the season in the RedBull.

https://streamable.com/7qwe9

Honda even give him same engine mode, RB give him same equipment. Still cant believe why Gasly always put throttle on medium low speed corner resulting in oversteer. Max just carry his corner in speed and just open the throttle toward the exit.

[gokarter]

gasly performance is poor, i am suprised he is still driving a redbull.

[Pyrone89]

Just a small question cause i dont remember the regulations well: Assuming they swap Gasly and Kvyat, doesnt redbull lose Gasly's 60 or so points from its WCC? If they're fighting for second at this point, i dont thing its easy to regain everything from 0 even with Kvyat, assuming thats how it works.

That is not how it works. The points are counted towards the team which the driver got them with, they are not transfered. Else you could buy the WCC at the end of the year by hiring 2 very high scoring drivers.