2019 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, August 2-4

[drunkf1fan]

Those last 20 laps of the race were fantastic. I gotta say thanks to Pirelli for having given drivers tires where they could push.

A. Were they really? On one stoppers in Hungary? I doubt it.

B. They were still saving fuel and engines.

Fuel and engine are fine, but people gotta remember that most of the performance from decent tires and pitting more is performance from cornering at a higher speed and better traction/less wheel spin out of corners. You don't at all have to increase fuel usage to go 2 seconds a lap from much better rubber, fuel usage can be exactly the same while going faster on new rubber or slower on older harder tires. So fuel/engine doesn't make much difference, but as per my comment above, yeah, the tires weren't great in Hungary. basically only worked particularly well for a single guy on the entire grid.

[sprint car76]

Got a question for you all. How many of you thought, at the moment Hamilton went into the pits for his last stop, that he had a hope of catching verstap? I'm a hamilton fan and i thought "You just screwed up again" Still thinking about germany i thought "Here we go again" The only chance i thought he had was because he had pushed verstap so hard in the middle stint. But honestly after the first few laps after his stop when he was only gaining tenths of a second i thought it was over. So be honest now.

[Jolle]

Got a question for you all. How many of you thought, at the moment Hamilton went into the pits for his last stop, that he had a hope of catching verstap? I'm a hamilton fan and i thought "You just screwed up again" Still thinking about germany i thought "Here we go again" The only chance i thought he had was because he had pushed verstap so hard in the middle stint. But honestly after the first few laps after his stop when he was only gaining tenths of a second i thought it was over. So be honest now.

My first though was, brilliant move, Verstappen has lost it. I remembered Hamilton doing something similar during his McLaren days. Plus, pushing for laps time takes more out of your tires then keeping someone behind you. Verstappen was going to run out of tires before the finish line this way.

[Pyrone89]

Got a question for you all. How many of you thought, at the moment Hamilton went into the pits for his last stop, that he had a hope of catching verstap? I'm a hamilton fan and i thought "You just screwed up again" Still thinking about germany i thought "Here we go again" The only chance i thought he had was because he had pushed verstap so hard in the middle stint. But honestly after the first few laps after his stop when he was only gaining tenths of a second i thought it was over. So be honest now.

I knew immediately it was lost. You can even look up my direct reply in the race thread already congratulating Merc. In himdsight there was still a small possibility if they had pitted Verstappen in lap 57. Until that point the time loss was contained but after that it went with seconds at a time and RB should have made the calculation. If they had done so Max would have returned on track 6 seconds behind Hamilton but with a lot fresher tyres he could have attacked back perhaps.

[Juzh]

a bunch of stuff from the race :

(remember, streamable will not give you max quality on mobile, so you can DL all clips directly from link in my signature, or by clicking here: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/3/fold ... 9UCCweHdm4 )

kvyat vs albon side by side trough entire sector 1
https://streamable.com/eh85r


vettel overtakes leclerc
https://streamable.com/0lv68


verstappen race fastest lap 1.17.103 (no irritating commentary)
https://streamable.com/y3m3g


verstappen vs hamilton second stint - verstappen chase cam
https://streamable.com/z03x1


and since i've been doing mostly verstappen's clips last few races, here are some extended highlights (36 minutes total) from hamilton's onboard cam with added telemetry and live gaps

Hamilton vs Verstappen - part 1 (second stint chase)
https://streamable.com/392p3


Hamilton vs Verstappen - part 2 (second stint battle)
https://streamable.com/d98jv


Hamilton vs Verstappen - part 3 (third stint chase part 1)
https://streamable.com/03zqi


Hamilton vs Verstappen - part 4 (third stint chase part 2)
https://streamable.com/byhoi


Hamilton vs Verstappen - part 5 (third stint battle)
https://streamable.com/fo486

[Bsowles]

As we seem to be getting nationalistic here. Well done Max, we Brits love you. But we reserve the option of supporting Hamilton, Vittel, Leclerc, whoever. We love racers

Well stated, Big Tea.

[izzy]

a bunch of stuff from the race :

(remember, streamable will not give you max quality on mobile, so you can DL all clips directly from link in my signature, or by clicking here: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/3/fold ... 9UCCweHdm4 )

awesome thanks!!

[Hammer44]

a bunch of stuff from the race :

(remember, streamable will not give you max quality on mobile, so you can DL all clips directly from link in my signature, or by clicking here: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/3/fold ... 9UCCweHdm4 )

kvyat vs albon side by side trough entire sector 1
https://streamable.com/eh85r
https://streamable.com/eh85r

vettel overtakes leclerc
https://streamable.com/0lv68
https://streamable.com/0lv68

verstappen race fastest lap 1.17.103 (no irritating commentary)
https://streamable.com/y3m3g
https://streamable.com/y3m3g

verstappen vs hamilton second stint - verstappen chase cam
https://streamable.com/z03x1
https://streamable.com/z03x1

and since i've been doing mostly verstappen's clips last few races, here are some extended highlights (36 minutes total) from hamilton's onboard cam with added telemetry and live gaps

Hamilton vs Verstappen - part 1 (second stint chase)
https://streamable.com/392p3
https://streamable.com/392p3

Hamilton vs Verstappen - part 2 (second stint battle)
https://streamable.com/d98jv
https://streamable.com/d98jv

Hamilton vs Verstappen - part 3 (third stint chase part 1)
https://streamable.com/03zqi
https://streamable.com/03zqi

Hamilton vs Verstappen - part 4 (third stint chase part 2)
https://streamable.com/byhoi
https://streamable.com/byhoi

Hamilton vs Verstappen - part 5 (third stint battle)
https://streamable.com/fo486
https://streamable.com/fo486

Why do they keep on showing this shoulder cam on Hamilton's car while with the other drivers they only show the T-cam. I'm sick and tired of having to watch his onboards with this camera angle.

[Pyrone89]

a bunch of stuff from the race :

(remember, streamable will not give you max quality on mobile, so you can DL all clips directly from link in my signature, or by clicking here: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/3/fold ... 9UCCweHdm4 )

kvyat vs albon side by side trough entire sector 1
https://streamable.com/eh85r
https://streamable.com/eh85r

vettel overtakes leclerc
https://streamable.com/0lv68
https://streamable.com/0lv68

verstappen race fastest lap 1.17.103 (no irritating commentary)
https://streamable.com/y3m3g
https://streamable.com/y3m3g

verstappen vs hamilton second stint - verstappen chase cam
https://streamable.com/z03x1
https://streamable.com/z03x1

and since i've been doing mostly verstappen's clips last few races, here are some extended highlights (36 minutes total) from hamilton's onboard cam with added telemetry and live gaps

Hamilton vs Verstappen - part 1 (second stint chase)
https://streamable.com/392p3
https://streamable.com/392p3

Hamilton vs Verstappen - part 2 (second stint battle)
https://streamable.com/d98jv
https://streamable.com/d98jv

Hamilton vs Verstappen - part 3 (third stint chase part 1)
https://streamable.com/03zqi
https://streamable.com/03zqi

Hamilton vs Verstappen - part 4 (third stint chase part 2)
https://streamable.com/byhoi
https://streamable.com/byhoi

Hamilton vs Verstappen - part 5 (third stint battle)
https://streamable.com/fo486
https://streamable.com/fo486

Why do they keep on showing this shoulder cam on Hamilton's car while with the other drivers they only show the T-cam. I'm sick and tired of having to watch his onboards with this camera angle.

Is Bottas also shown with shoulder cam? If so it is a Mercedes thing.
Edit; apparantly not. But the German GP I could swear he had the T-cam view as we could see the damage to the left winglet on the nose.

[Hammer44]

a bunch of stuff from the race :

(remember, streamable will not give you max quality on mobile, so you can DL all clips directly from link in my signature, or by clicking here: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/3/fold ... 9UCCweHdm4 )

kvyat vs albon side by side trough entire sector 1
https://streamable.com/eh85r
https://streamable.com/eh85r

vettel overtakes leclerc
https://streamable.com/0lv68
https://streamable.com/0lv68

verstappen race fastest lap 1.17.103 (no irritating commentary)
https://streamable.com/y3m3g
https://streamable.com/y3m3g

verstappen vs hamilton second stint - verstappen chase cam
https://streamable.com/z03x1
https://streamable.com/z03x1

and since i've been doing mostly verstappen's clips last few races, here are some extended highlights (36 minutes total) from hamilton's onboard cam with added telemetry and live gaps

Hamilton vs Verstappen - part 1 (second stint chase)
https://streamable.com/392p3
https://streamable.com/392p3

Hamilton vs Verstappen - part 2 (second stint battle)
https://streamable.com/d98jv
https://streamable.com/d98jv

Hamilton vs Verstappen - part 3 (third stint chase part 1)
https://streamable.com/03zqi
https://streamable.com/03zqi

Hamilton vs Verstappen - part 4 (third stint chase part 2)
https://streamable.com/byhoi
https://streamable.com/byhoi

Hamilton vs Verstappen - part 5 (third stint battle)
https://streamable.com/fo486
https://streamable.com/fo486

Why do they keep on showing this shoulder cam on Hamilton's car while with the other drivers they only show the T-cam. I'm sick and tired of having to watch his onboards with this camera angle.

Is Bottas also shown with shoulder cam? If so it is a Mercedes thing.

No,Bottas doesn't have any shoulder cam on his car. They have always shown Bottas onboard with the T-cam.

[Pyrone89]

Why do they keep on showing this shoulder cam on Hamilton's car while with the other drivers they only show the T-cam. I'm sick and tired of having to watch his onboards with this camera angle.

Is Bottas also shown with shoulder cam? If so it is a Mercedes thing.

No,Bottas doesn't have any shoulder cam on his car. They have always shown Bottas onboard with the T-cam.

Yeah saw it, weird.

Anyone with connection who could find out why this is happening. I find the shoulder cam useless because it gives a bad sense of how the car is handling (cant see understeer well).

[Hammer44]

Is Bottas also shown with shoulder cam? If so it is a Mercedes thing.

No,Bottas doesn't have any shoulder cam on his car. They have always shown Bottas onboard with the T-cam.

Yeah saw it, weird.

Anyone with connection who could find out why this is happening. I find the shoulder cam useless because it gives a bad sense of how the car is handling (cant see understeer well).

It seems FOM have an obsession of wanting to show Lewis onboard with this shoulder cam all the time. I cannot understand why they keep doing this even though the majority of the fans don't want it.

[Pyrone89]

No,Bottas doesn't have any shoulder cam on his car. They have always shown Bottas onboard with the T-cam.

Yeah saw it, weird.

Anyone with connection who could find out why this is happening. I find the shoulder cam useless because it gives a bad sense of how the car is handling (cant see understeer well).

It seems FOM have an obsession of wanting to show Lewis onboard with this shoulder cam all the time. I wish I knew why are they doing this.

Maybe sponsor logos show better, but if Merc requested it you would expect it at Bottas too.

[Hammer44]

Yeah saw it, weird.

Anyone with connection who could find out why this is happening. I find the shoulder cam useless because it gives a bad sense of how the car is handling (cant see understeer well).

It seems FOM have an obsession of wanting to show Lewis onboard with this shoulder cam all the time. I cannot understand why they keep doing this even though the majority of the fans don't want it.

Maybe sponsor logos show better, but if Merc requested it you would expect it at Bottas too.

[yelistener]

Why do they keep on showing this shoulder cam on Hamilton's car while with the other drivers they only show the T-cam. I'm sick and tired of having to watch his onboards with this camera angle.

They started to use the shoulder cam as the main onboard camera in 2017. It could be because that someone in FOM felt that it's closer the view of what the drivers had.

In 2018, due to Halo blocking the view they had to dump it. But in the late 2018 they changed the shoulder cam to a slightly higher position to avoid the view blocking Halo and then used it on Renault. Then it got back to 2017 at the beginning of 2019, but fans all complained about it in Australia pole onboard youtube comment section, so FOM then decided to have the top 3 teams to use T-cam for one driver and shoulder cam for another. So it's been Lewis shoulder cam Bottas T-cam, Leclerc shoulder cam Vettel T-cam, Gasly shoulder cam Max T-cam since that.

So FOM is actually getting a bit better for actually listening to fans. In 2017 they never listened to fans complaint about the shoulde cam.

In Hockiemheim they used T-cam for Lewis because of the rain and that the T-cam had this rolling film mechanism to get rid of the droplet in front of the lens.