2019 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 06 - 08

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Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 06 - 08

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GPR -A wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:47
F1NAC wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:45
GPR -A wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:43
How did Carlos Sainz even qualified to start the last lap? Even before he started his lap, the lights went red!!!

https://i.screenshot.net/76v97s5
Mate, this picture is showing him crossing the line during his fast lap not outlap. He did cross the line while there were green lights still on
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Snatch wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:45
They should revert for the old qualifyng format...at least for the q3 phase or all thogeter. One man, alone on the circuit do as best as he can.
Trouble with that is when you get changeable weather and it ruins the session. And surely changeable weather happens far more than what we saw today.
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Snatch wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:45
They should revert for the old qualifyng format...at least for the q3 phase or all thogeter. One man, alone on the circuit do as best as he can.
The problem is that the tracks evolve from being green so much now. You also run the risk of teams screaming ‘impartiality” if they don’t get the best positioned runs.
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F1NAC wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:48
GPR -A wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:47
F1NAC wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:45


Mate, this picture is showing him crossing the line during his fast lap not outlap. He did cross the line while there were green lights still on
What am I smoking. :x
Whatever it is you can send some :P
Open up a store while you are at it. I think we all need some after the Q3 mess.
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Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 06 - 08

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F1NAC wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:45
GPR -A wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:43
How did Carlos Sainz even qualified to start the last lap? Even before he started his lap, the lights went red!!!

https://i.screenshot.net/76v97s5
Mate, this picture is showing him crossing the line during his fast lap not outlap. He did cross the line while there were green lights still on
#-o :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Restomaniac wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:49
Snatch wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:45
They should revert for the old qualifyng format...at least for the q3 phase or all thogeter. One man, alone on the circuit do as best as he can.
The problem is that the tracks evolve from being green so much now. You also run the risk of teams screaming ‘impartiality” if they don’t get the best positioned runs.
That's why a lot of series that do this use essentially drawing from a hat to determine the time you run.
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MtthsMlw wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:29
Phil wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:25
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07 Sep 2019, 19:16
Vettel under investigation for leaving the track and gaining an advantage. Time is 15:43 that should be at some point in Q2 and not his first and only Q3 lap?
Funny, i dont even recall Vettel going off track in Q2. But i do distinctively remember Albon being off track and being investigated for his Q2 lap, yet even though is time was supposedly deleted, he retained his position in the top 10? Or did he do two laps and a slower lap got deleted?
AMuS says it's down to him (Vettel) cutting some chicane at some point in Q2.
if the time (15:43) is correct, it must be his second (aborted) Q2 lap. Just checked theonboard, but couldn't find anything worth to investigate further

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Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 06 - 08

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F1NAC wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:45
GPR -A wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:43
How did Carlos Sainz even qualified to start the last lap? Even before he started his lap, the lights went red!!!

https://i.screenshot.net/76v97s5
Mate, this picture is showing him crossing the line during his fast lap not outlap. He did cross the line while there were green lights still on
Also the finish line (the line in the Picture) is not the "qualy lap start line".
Sorry wrong, it is the "qualy start line"
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Big news regarding tomorrow's weather. Looks like it will be a dry race, and all the rain will happen in the morning. That means the worst we can hope for is a drying track. That would be spicy, a track too wet for slicks but too dry for full wets, and people will have to pit within 8-9 laps and then make 1 further stop at the very minimum.
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dans79 wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:50
Restomaniac wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:49
Snatch wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:45
They should revert for the old qualifyng format...at least for the q3 phase or all thogeter. One man, alone on the circuit do as best as he can.
The problem is that the tracks evolve from being green so much now. You also run the risk of teams screaming ‘impartiality” if they don’t get the best positioned runs.
That's why a lot of series that do this use essentially drawing from a hat to determine the time you run.
As long as it’s open and transparent then that would solve it. It would make how green the track is a total lottery though. Would certainly mix the grid up though.

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214270 wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:28
Sainz should get banged for sure.

The question mark is over the conduct of Hulk and Stroll. I think both could argue that the roadblock they each were involved in was a result of Sainz speeding up, joining them and driving side-by-side with them.
lol, really?

Stroll was a road block in the chicane, he saw what Hulk was doing so went extremely slow through the chicane such that no one could pass him.

On the straight Sainz passed him and went alongside Hulk and together they became a road block. Nothing Sainz did turned Stroll into a roadblock nor caused Hulk to go through the run off as slow as possible then come back on track and continue to go as slow as possible.

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Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 06 - 08

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Restomaniac wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:54
dans79 wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:50
Restomaniac wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:49
The problem is that the tracks evolve from being green so much now. You also run the risk of teams screaming ‘impartiality” if they don’t get the best positioned runs.
That's why a lot of series that do this use essentially drawing from a hat to determine the time you run.
As long as it’s open and transparent then that would solve it. It would make how green the track is a total lottery though. Would certainly mix the grid up though.
In the order of the q2 results. Problem solved.

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Restomaniac wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:54
dans79 wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:50
Restomaniac wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:49
The problem is that the tracks evolve from being green so much now. You also run the risk of teams screaming ‘impartiality” if they don’t get the best positioned runs.
That's why a lot of series that do this use essentially drawing from a hat to determine the time you run.
As long as it’s open and transparent then that would solve it. It would make how green the track is a total lottery though. Would certainly mix the grid up though.
... And will be a much better solution than a reverse grid qualifying race...

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Snatch wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 19:45
They should revert for the old qualifyng format...at least for the q3 phase or all thogeter. One man, alone on the circuit do as best as he can.
Please no. F1 has been there and done that. One-lap qualifying does not work because weather and track conditions have far too much impact. Just creates even more farces.

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bottas q3 lap P3 - bottas is saying yellows cost him pole, which is true, as he takes insane speed into parabolica, probably highest I've seen. What he didn't say is that he forgot to open the DRS on the main straight, which also cost him pole :lol: he'll be kicking himself
https://streamable.com/h8gk1


leclerc pole lap
https://streamable.com/102qf


hamilton p2 lap
https://streamable.com/kx0nb


vettel p4 lap
https://streamable.com/3yenq


ricciardo p5 lap
https://streamable.com/35ftl


albon q2 vs q3 aborted lap compared
https://streamable.com/zzujl