2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

[loner]

the announcement about FP2 times potentially counting for the starting grid was made after FP1, so too late to swap engines (and the chance for no qualifying on Sunday is minimal anyway). So I'd say yes, with high likeliness Ferrari and Mercedes were running old engines

i'd call that naivety if they did however i think they did not because they are professionals you don't gamble with throwing away a very possible pole position to wait and see if with such huge typhoon track will be dry enough for qualy on Sunday, or else why Ferrari did a qualy lap so late in fp2!!

[godlameroso]

Seems to me that the gap in one lap pace has gone from between .3 to .4 seconds to .1-.2 so it looks like the fuel did bring two tenths. Long runs show Verstappen is the fastest, he was the only one who could consistently do low 34's.

[gandharva]

Long runs show Verstappen is the fastest, he was the only one who could consistently do low 34's.

[godlameroso]

That's interesting, it doesn't tell the whole picture, it's closer than it seems. Just under .2 difference.

[Bill]

If Honda want a driver in f1 maybe they should give Claire Williams free engines then put a driver in Kubica place , these may help keep Redbull in check they may stop thinking they are all that wonderful and Honda can't live without them.Horner was pretty dismissive of Yamamoto effort oh he knows the track very well like that can automatically make a poor driver great. They was no errors lock up that will associate with rookie drivers.secound he does not meet the criteria of a Redbull driver which is a code he is not young but in truth Rbr will like to think that there customers a young adventurers risk takers but the truth is most people who buy their products are old truckers how don't want to fall asleep behind the wheel or people who identifies as "athletes."The long and short of it Redbull needs to stop being fake a Japanese driver can help cement their relationship with Honda and help their sales in japan a very big market.when Redbull wanted a pu unit from Mercedes their were asked about a marketing plan that will incorporates Mercedes interest but merc never got a reply thing is Rbr can be very selfish they want all for themselves with compromises Mclaren also in long run in hurt them.

[loner]

Sebastian Vettel's only explanation: "Maybe Mercedes has turned the engine more than we do." Mercedes chief engineer Andrew Shovlin reveals: "We drove with more engine power and less fuel than we would normally do on a Friday."
Red Bull started with too little downforce in the training, but corrected in the second practice. While Max Verstappen was satisfied with the third fastest time of the day, there is still room for improvement in race simulation.

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... -longruns/

[Manoah2u]

wrong thread.

[loner]

wrong thread.

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[Manoah2u]

wrong thread.

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i meant, i posted something and it was the wrong thread

[loner]

wrong thread.

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i meant, i posted something and it was the wrong thread

[IvailoStefanovBG]

Sebastian Vettel's only explanation: "Maybe Mercedes has turned the engine more than we do." Mercedes chief engineer Andrew Shovlin reveals: "We drove with more engine power and less fuel than we would normally do on a Friday."
Red Bull started with too little downforce in the training, but corrected in the second practice. While Max Verstappen was satisfied with the third fastest time of the day, there is still room for improvement in race simulation.

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... -longruns/

I presume that everybody drove with a little less fuel and more power on Friday because of the possibility Friday practice standings to be decisive for starting grid. What bothers me most is that pre Spa Mercs, Radbull, Ferrari order is back and I give it to the harder tires used this weekend. If that`s true all teams talking about upgrades and etc. is pure nonsense for me....Tires are 70% of current F1....

[SmallSoldier]

Hard to measure how the PU’s measure up since we don’t know which spec each team run... If Mercedes or Ferrari are running “Friday engines”, not only are they not in their latest spec, most probably they can’t use their highest power modes due to the mileage on those units.


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It seems to me that everyone has used the racing engine. If the qualification is canceled,
counts the result of VT2. Hopefully nobody used the Friday engine and then it looks pretty good,
but Mercedes has again brought a considerable upgrade.

They announced that FP3 was canceled just before FP2, so probably not a lot of time for the teams to change engines if they weren’t planning on it... Qualy isn’t canceled yet either... And we might have it still on Sunday


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[Marti_EF3]

They probably knew that Saturday action would be cancelled before friday, only looking to all predictions, and that FP2 maybe would play a role on starting grid. So MAYBE all have their racing PU on at least FP2...

[diffuser]

Seems to me that the gap in one lap pace has gone from between .3 to .4 seconds to .1-.2 so it looks like the fuel did bring two tenths. Long runs show Verstappen is the fastest, he was the only one who could consistently do low 34's.

I think you're counting your chickens before they've hatched.

[SmallSoldier]

They probably knew that Saturday action would be cancelled before friday, only looking to all predictions, and that FP2 maybe would play a role on starting grid. So MAYBE all have their racing PU on at least FP2...

Could be... But, they will placing a lot of mileage on PU’s that need to make it to the end of the season... I still believe that if the teams had to choose between a “potential” starting grid where they are 1-2 positions behind or having to start at the back of the grid in the final races of the season because they need an additional PU, the teams will probably prefer to lose those couple of positions (which isn’t a guarantee yet, since we may very well have qualifying on Sunday).

The only teams that can have the luxury of running their race engines in FP this weekend are RBR and STR, since they not only have brand new spec 4’s at their disposal, they also have another available Spec 4 with enough mileage left.


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