2020 Styrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, 10-12 July

[Restomaniac]

Am I the only one to look at that weather and think ‘I’ve seen perfectly good racing in worse weather than that’?

[Mogster]

Am I the only one to look at that weather and think ‘I’ve seen perfectly good racing in worse weather than that’?

You can’t continue to race with several cars stranded around the circuit.

[mkay]

0% chance of racing today based on forecast. Unlikely they will cram all the races tomorrow. So Max potentially on pole.

What are you on about? Forecast shows light rain around qualifying. Peak rain fall is effectively now, so I wouldn’t expect an FP3, but it should clear up in a couple of hours

[McMika98]

The radar chart shows rain at less than 2mm now to 6mm around quali time and subsiding to 2mm in the evening.
Live feed says FP3 suspended indefinitely.
I agree that they should at least run it to see as it will down to the driver to control the car, we have seen far worse conditions.

[Fulcrum]

It´s already communicated that there is no chance for a qualy Sunday morning because of the support program. On other thing that bothers me since some years is that everytime a car stops there is a safety car or a red flag. In 7 out of 10 cases the car could easily roll through a gap in the guardrail if there were any.

Yes but its to prevent a crash with a stationary object like what happened with Jules Bianchi.
If and when a driver safely rejoins then they lift the flags.

Or if the driver manages to actually exit the run off areas completely then they lift the flags. They are pulling flags almost immediately now even when a car is just driving and then over steers out of track for a moment. Yes its excessive but i would have preferred excessive flags being pulled on drivers in the past then all these deaths.

I mean its unlucky if you're on a fast lap or in race you are leading and then drivers behind you catch up with fresh tires because the pit stop benefited them a bit more then you. But luck adds drama and entertainment so from a marketing perspective it makes it a bit harder for the leading car to fly away completly like when Redbull and a few seasons ago Mercedes and in the past other teams would have massive gaps to the 3rd place podium.

I mean all of those flags gave us an odd podium situation and a entertaining and heart breaking race for some and a miracle and lucky race for and unlucky for others.

I dont mind all the flags despite the fact that the teams i support were affected by them, safety first.


EDIT:
But i agree putting gaps in the guard rails for emergency exits would make things more efficient if the drivers can reach these safely.

Is there any reason why the marshals couldn't be equipped with jacks, as are used during pit stops? It seems this would be the quickest way of moving a vehicle away from the circuit, particularly in those cases where the car has stopped on tarmac.

[Big Tea]

Ted now saying the session is officially cancelled

[FrukostScones]

What joke is this?

[gandharva]

Ted now saying the session is officially cancelled

Very likely same will happen to qualifying. Forecast shows heavy rain up to 7,7 l/m² until 22:00.

[El Scorchio]

We in America have decided to not care what the Brits think as a part of who we are culturally.
So your not giving a scooby does not even register. We will change anything we want to change
if we feel like it.

Spell it how you like. But don't call it "English".

I feel slightly aggrieved when I hear USians saying "can't you speak English?" when they really mean "can't you speak USian?"

American? Lol "USian"?

American English.

[matt_b]

Well qualifying is 3 hours away, if it doesn't happen then as the FIA race director said “There’s lots of options to put it simply. If a worst-case scenario was to come about, we’ve already had a look and qualifying could take place on Sunday morning"

[Mogster]

It´s already communicated that there is no chance for a qualy Sunday morning because of the support program. On other thing that bothers me since some years is that everytime a car stops there is a safety car or a red flag. In 7 out of 10 cases the car could easily roll through a gap in the guardrail if there were any.

Yes but its to prevent a crash with a stationary object like what happened with Jules Bianchi.
If and when a driver safely rejoins then they lift the flags.

Or if the driver manages to actually exit the run off areas completely then they lift the flags. They are pulling flags almost immediately now even when a car is just driving and then over steers out of track for a moment. Yes its excessive but i would have preferred excessive flags being pulled on drivers in the past then all these deaths.

I mean its unlucky if you're on a fast lap or in race you are leading and then drivers behind you catch up with fresh tires because the pit stop benefited them a bit more then you. But luck adds drama and entertainment so from a marketing perspective it makes it a bit harder for the leading car to fly away completly like when Redbull and a few seasons ago Mercedes and in the past other teams would have massive gaps to the 3rd place podium.

I mean all of those flags gave us an odd podium situation and a entertaining and heart breaking race for some and a miracle and lucky race for and unlucky for others.

I dont mind all the flags despite the fact that the teams i support were affected by them, safety first.


EDIT:
But i agree putting gaps in the guard rails for emergency exits would make things more efficient if the drivers can reach these safely.

Is there any reason why the marshals couldn't be equipped with jacks, as are used during pit stops? It seems this would be the quickest way of moving a vehicle away from the circuit, particularly in those cases where the car has stopped on tarmac.

In the pits the dollys are being pushed on smooth concrete. Most of the time the cars are parked on uneven surfaces though or worse grass or gravel.

[El Scorchio]

It´s already communicated that there is no chance for a qualy Sunday morning because of the support program. On other thing that bothers me since some years is that everytime a car stops there is a safety car or a red flag. In 7 out of 10 cases the car could easily roll through a gap in the guardrail if there were any.

Yes but its to prevent a crash with a stationary object like what happened with Jules Bianchi.
If and when a driver safely rejoins then they lift the flags.

Or if the driver manages to actually exit the run off areas completely then they lift the flags. They are pulling flags almost immediately now even when a car is just driving and then over steers out of track for a moment. Yes its excessive but i would have preferred excessive flags being pulled on drivers in the past then all these deaths.

I mean its unlucky if you're on a fast lap or in race you are leading and then drivers behind you catch up with fresh tires because the pit stop benefited them a bit more then you. But luck adds drama and entertainment so from a marketing perspective it makes it a bit harder for the leading car to fly away completly like when Redbull and a few seasons ago Mercedes and in the past other teams would have massive gaps to the 3rd place podium.

I mean all of those flags gave us an odd podium situation and a entertaining and heart breaking race for some and a miracle and lucky race for and unlucky for others.

I dont mind all the flags despite the fact that the teams i support were affected by them, safety first.


EDIT:
But i agree putting gaps in the guard rails for emergency exits would make things more efficient if the drivers can reach these safely.

Is there any reason why the marshals couldn't be equipped with jacks, as are used during pit stops? It seems this would be the quickest way of moving a vehicle away from the circuit, particularly in those cases where the car has stopped on tarmac.

My feeling is that you absolutely don’t want another Bianchi, but they need to make more use of VSC. Safety car is great in terms of, um, safety but it really, really interferes with the race, and takes several laps to sort out with cars joining, lapped cars overtaking and then finally getting on with it. Sometimes I think race directors need to make more of a situation based assessment. At least one of the incidents last week could have been VSC. Car not crashed, on a straight, out of the way, easy to remove in a minute or so. If not then, then what is VSC for? Way less disruption. I get there’s the safety aspect but honestly I’ve started to think F1 see it as a way of artificially generating racing and drama. It feels like since liberty took over there’s been a drastic increase.

[Shader]

Few drops of rain and they cancel the session? What is this? F1?
They used to drive in far worse conditions... this is a mockery..

[LM10]

Few drops of rain and they cancle the session? What is this? F1?

Absolutely ridiculous to straight out cancel it. They at least could have let the drivers go out and try it. It’s like forbidding children to play outside because it might be dangerous.

Just because F3 couldn’t take place in much worse cars with worse drivers doesn’t mean that the same would apply to F1.

[falonso81]

We have seen racing with double the rainfall (eg. Malaysia). This is fp for crying out loud. Let them at least have an installation lap.