2020 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, 31-02 July / August

[Big Tea]

The case with Silverstone is that the tarmac is so black it absorbs the sunlight from quite low levels. Even with cool-ish air temps the track temp can be quite high, especially after the latest resurface. its in an open area so moving air can make it feel cool but the track absorbs a lot of heat. (no, I know sod all about prediction )

[zibby43]

Wow it looks very close between Verstappen and Mercedes. This could all change tomorrow and Sunday when it'll be slightly cooler, although I don't think it will be much cooler than today. It will largely depend on the clouds and how they affect track temperature.

It's seems close between Bottas and Verstappen with the Mercedes engine turned heavily down. Anything else is clutching at straws. We'll see tomorrow, hopefully it will be closer than it's feared.

Turned down to the point that Bottas had the highest trap speeds?

When the Racing Point tops FP2, you have to figure that the W11 is faster than the W10.

[McMika98]

Fp3 should give a better picture, can only see Merc being able to make to Q2 with mediums.

[godlameroso]

It's seems close between Bottas and Verstappen with the Mercedes engine turned heavily down. Anything else is clutching at straws. We'll see tomorrow, hopefully it will be closer than it's feared.

Turned down to the point that Bottas had the highest trap speeds?

When the Racing Point tops FP2, you have to figure that the W11 is faster than the W10.

I'm sure there's more to come from Mercedes however the nature of the circuit doesn't play into their strengths. Not a lot of medium speed corners for them to strut their stuff. Stowe and the end of the esses really. Toto has also admitted that Mercedes is a little slower than tracing point in the super high speed stuff due to more drag.

[simieski]

Their models, which are outdated by the way, new stuff coming in the pipeline. Anyway, they underestimate water vapor heating, so they overestimate temperature drop. It all depends on the clouds really, the sun shine will raise track temperatures nicely.

How about some proof?

Proof is in the pudding, I said it was going to be warmer than predicted, and it was. What more proof do you need?

It is all just guessing though ultimately isn’t it? Narrow data set admittedly but for the Hungarian Grand Prix you were adamant it would be low 30’s when others were saying low 20’s. Ended up being low 20’s iirc. You may well end up being correct more than the established sources but no one really knows with any certainty until it happens, at best we have educated guesses.

[zibby43]

Turned down to the point that Bottas had the highest trap speeds?

When the Racing Point tops FP2, you have to figure that the W11 is faster than the W10.

I'm sure there's more to come from Mercedes however the nature of the circuit doesn't play into their strengths. Not a lot of medium speed corners for them to strut their stuff. Stowe and the end of the esses really. Toto has also admitted that Mercedes is a little slower than tracing point in the super high speed stuff due to more drag.

Have to respectfully disagree with everything you said after “more to come” (which I do agree with).

Based on the data from the first 3 races, Merc have been the best in high-speed corners and on the straights. Red Bull and Christian Horner have said this as well.

This circuit is perfect for the W11.

[godlameroso]

How about some proof?

Proof is in the pudding, I said it was going to be warmer than predicted, and it was. What more proof do you need?

It is all just guessing though ultimately isn’t it? Narrow data set admittedly but for the Hungarian Grand Prix you were adamant it would be low 30’s when others were saying low 20’s. Ended up being low 20’s iirc. You may well end up being correct more than the established sources but no one really knows with any certainty until it happens, at best we have educated guesses.

Mid 20s it was uncharacteristic of the time of year but I admit I was wrong.

[tangodjango]

When the Racing Point tops FP2, you have to figure that the W11 is faster than the W10.

I'm sure there's more to come from Mercedes however the nature of the circuit doesn't play into their strengths. Not a lot of medium speed corners for them to strut their stuff. Stowe and the end of the esses really. Toto has also admitted that Mercedes is a little slower than tracing point in the super high speed stuff due to more drag.

Have to respectfully disagree with everything you said after “more to come” (which I do agree with).

Based on the data from the first 3 races, Merc have been the best in high-speed corners and on the straights. Red Bull and Christian Horner have said this as well.

This circuit is perfect for the W11.

You don't really need to be so respectful! Much of what he says is outright bad speculation and conjecture that anyone with an iota of sense would reject right away.

[godlameroso]

I'm sure there's more to come from Mercedes however the nature of the circuit doesn't play into their strengths. Not a lot of medium speed corners for them to strut their stuff. Stowe and the end of the esses really. Toto has also admitted that Mercedes is a little slower than tracing point in the super high speed stuff due to more drag.

Have to respectfully disagree with everything you said after “more to come” (which I do agree with).

Based on the data from the first 3 races, Merc have been the best in high-speed corners and on the straights. Red Bull and Christian Horner have said this as well.

This circuit is perfect for the W11.

You don't really need to be so respectful! Much of what he says is outright bad speculation and conjecture that anyone with an iota of sense would reject right away.

I guess I don't have to respect you at all? Fair enough. Yeah I speculate. So do a lot of people. Luckily we have your magnificence to fact check everyone mister insider.

[tangodjango]

Have to respectfully disagree with everything you said after “more to come” (which I do agree with).

Based on the data from the first 3 races, Merc have been the best in high-speed corners and on the straights. Red Bull and Christian Horner have said this as well.

This circuit is perfect for the W11.

You don't really need to be so respectful! Much of what he says is outright bad speculation and conjecture that anyone with an iota of sense would reject right away.

I guess I don't have to respect you at all? Fair enough. Yeah I speculate. So do a lot of people. Luckily we have your magnificence to fact check everyone mister insider.

This will be my last direct response to you so you're absolutely free to not respect me or my opinion at all just like I did likewise with you after your ridiculous "Lewis did a trick" comments (as well as numerous others) after the wet Austrian qualifying. So feel free to use the ignore button and I will do likewise .

[MtthsMlw]

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[etusch]

a question out of topic; do you live SSL problem with this site?

[etusch]

It's seems close between Bottas and Verstappen with the Mercedes engine turned heavily down. Anything else is clutching at straws. We'll see tomorrow, hopefully it will be closer than it's feared.

Turned down to the point that Bottas had the highest trap speeds?

When the Racing Point tops FP2, you have to figure that the W11 is faster than the W10.

I saw a comperation shows that racing point use bigger rear wing.

[HungarianRacer]

SF90 is back
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... Except it doesn't gain a massive momentum advantage in the first half of every straight/flat-out section (best indicator of horsepower advantage)...

[Sieper]

They are indeed running a skinny wing, leclerc was also saying it was “so, so difficult” and this time I actually believe him. Still, in Hungary they were there too. But maybe that is because with the thick nose aero is more predictable and the car is thus easier to set up correct and drive and around Hungary HP isn’t the most important (it always is Ofcourse) for achieving a quick lap.