2021 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, Apr 16 - 18

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Hamilton should take part on every lottery, guy has tremendous amount of luck for many years.
Unfortunately it's look like Mercedes is still the fastest by much.

And Perez... what a shame...

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To be fair I think Russell was to blame for that crash. Certainly Bottas did not do anything wrong. Surely Russell should have conceded that position. It was a Mercedes he was racing after all.
Though what is annoying is how the sky team are trying to pin Lewis' mistake on Russell. that is just a bit silly trying to apportion blame.

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dans79 wrote:
18 Apr 2021, 17:37
lh13 wrote:
18 Apr 2021, 17:29
dans79 wrote:
18 Apr 2021, 17:28


Yet he still sits in second in the championship!
You are actually bitter today, lol. You should be enjoying.
Oh trust me, I'm enjoying it I'm in fact getting ready to take my son for a walk on a nice Sunday morning!
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DChemTech wrote:
18 Apr 2021, 17:35
El Scorchio wrote:
18 Apr 2021, 17:29
ispano6 wrote:
18 Apr 2021, 17:26


Nah if the tables were turned the Ham fans would be saying the same thing. It doesn't change the fact HAM made mistakes and got resoundly beat by Verstappen today.
It depends if you have the ability to be objective or not. Some of us do!
Ironically, such a statement would likely also be made by the other team if the tables were turned. Maybe it would be nice to just accept most people here can be objective, and use that as a starting point in a discussion, instead of accusing one another of irrationality?
You’ve just completely contradicted yourself with that post.

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ispano6 wrote:
18 Apr 2021, 17:34
Sevach wrote:
18 Apr 2021, 17:27
dans79 wrote:
18 Apr 2021, 17:24


A virtual safety car still requires the cars on the track driving through a debris field which is what the FIA and the teams don't want!
It was red flag worthy, it wasn't simply 2 beached cars, the track was filthy, i don't know how one could argue against that.
Who said it should have been a VSC, the issue is the resetting of the field. Andreas Seidl wasn't happy about losing that place to Hamilton. HAM fans should just be happy Bottas and Russell caused an incident that played into Hamilton's hand. If there was no accident then Hamilton wouldn't be 1 point in the championship lead now would he!
Thank you for stating the obvious.

Strangely, I didn't see anyone complain about the red flags at Mugello, or the VSC when VET won in Australia 2018 thanks to it.

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lh13 wrote:
18 Apr 2021, 17:34
mistrx wrote:
18 Apr 2021, 17:30
Sky team again talking up Ham's performance (why am I still surprised?). Not sure how can you call Ham's performance good today.

Made silly mistakes, but just got huge dose of luck. All overtakes after the restart done using DRS and against slower cars. Or did I miss something form the 'allegedly' great performance?

If yes, then please amuse me.
Nothing great, imo. But he got the job done, unlike his teammate in the same car, so good nonetheless.
Exactly.

Winning a championship is all about mitigating damaging / bad days. Lewis had massive luck today, but took advantage of it.

Max has the ability to do that and is getting better at it. Lando is showing he is learning how to do that. Charles is still prone to some big mistakes, but did well today.

Valteri doesn’t. That’s the difference between being good and great.
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RUS is full of sh*t. Gentleman’s agreement my arse, how about GRO at Silverstone just last year, he was changing direction all over the place when people were attempting an overtake on him.
Team ANTI-HYPE. Prove it, then I’ll anoint you.

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grubschumi13 wrote:
18 Apr 2021, 17:38
To be fair I think Russell was to blame for that crash. Certainly Bottas did not do anything wrong. Surely Russell should have conceded that position. It was a Mercedes he was racing after all.
Though what is annoying is how the sky team are trying to pin Lewis' mistake on Russell. that is just a bit silly trying to apportion blame.
I don’t understand why the commentators try to create drama somewhere the drivers clearly don’t think there is. I mean, I know why, but I hate it.

I think they’re both a fault. This is partly the fault of DRS where the closing speed is unnaturally higher.
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George needs to be careful, as lando could easily take his future Mercedes seat.

He's already in a faster car, and thus has more chances of showing what he's capable of!
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dans79 wrote:
18 Apr 2021, 17:43
George needs to be careful, as lando could easily take his future Mercedes seat.

He's already in a faster car, and thus has more chances of showing what he's capable of!
Agree with that. I like him but he’s done himself no favours in or out of the car today.

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Hoffman900 wrote:
18 Apr 2021, 17:42
grubschumi13 wrote:
18 Apr 2021, 17:38
To be fair I think Russell was to blame for that crash. Certainly Bottas did not do anything wrong. Surely Russell should have conceded that position. It was a Mercedes he was racing after all.
Though what is annoying is how the sky team are trying to pin Lewis' mistake on Russell. that is just a bit silly trying to apportion blame.
I don’t understand why the commentators try to create drama somewhere the drivers clearly don’t think there is. I mean, I know why, but I hate it.

I think they’re both a fault. This is partly the fault of DRS where the closing speed is unnaturally higher.
George- You KO Val?

Bottas points, there is a wasp on my hat

George- Got it for you mate.
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foxmulder_ms wrote:
18 Apr 2021, 17:26
Juzh wrote:
18 Apr 2021, 17:21
El Scorchio wrote:
18 Apr 2021, 17:10


Ninth to second in about 20 laps is a great recovery, whatever spin you want to put on it. Sure he got a big slice of fortune today but he still had to pass a lot of cars to regain second.
Raikkonen spun before restart got underway so he restarted in P8. Perez was another free position. So he overtook 5 drivers on his way to P2. Some of those cars were seconds per lap slower than him, and he passed almost all cars with a zero skill DRS fly-by. Not least in a car that looked insanely fast on straight, gaining up to 1s under drs.

That horrendous race start and mid-race mistake pretty much made this race one of hamilton's worst ones in ages, so how people can say it was a good drive in any kind of way is baffling.

It is pity you cannot enjoy watching GOAT. :) You will miss him in couple of years..
Happy to commend him for jobs well done, such as his work in bahrain, today not so much.

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mkay wrote:
18 Apr 2021, 17:40
ispano6 wrote:
18 Apr 2021, 17:34
Sevach wrote:
18 Apr 2021, 17:27

It was red flag worthy, it wasn't simply 2 beached cars, the track was filthy, i don't know how one could argue against that.
Who said it should have been a VSC, the issue is the resetting of the field. Andreas Seidl wasn't happy about losing that place to Hamilton. HAM fans should just be happy Bottas and Russell caused an incident that played into Hamilton's hand. If there was no accident then Hamilton wouldn't be 1 point in the championship lead now would he!
Thank you for stating the obvious.

Strangely, I didn't see anyone complain about the red flags at Mugello, or the VSC when VET won in Australia 2018 thanks to it.
Some people can be dense, like not understanding that some flawed rules sometimes are exploited, you know, like track limits and free unlapping during red flags.

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Schuttelberg wrote:
18 Apr 2021, 17:11
Very lucky day for Lewis. Really, as a Seb fan, I no longer know what to wish for. Every race is just painful. Testing, qualifying, races. It's just all the same!
Seems Ferrari did the right thing. They have all the telemetry.

For Aston Marting, they will also see his telemetry where he is lacking performance, but I think they wouldn't be bothered too much as long as lance gets to look good. Lance's ratings in the F1-metrics model will take big boost if he can keep in front of Seb this year.
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El Scorchio wrote:
18 Apr 2021, 17:39
DChemTech wrote:
18 Apr 2021, 17:35
El Scorchio wrote:
18 Apr 2021, 17:29


It depends if you have the ability to be objective or not. Some of us do!
Ironically, such a statement would likely also be made by the other team if the tables were turned. Maybe it would be nice to just accept most people here can be objective, and use that as a starting point in a discussion, instead of accusing one another of irrationality?
You’ve just completely contradicted yourself with that post.
I dont think i have; unfortunate you read it that way. I am just saying saying the objectivity- asymmetry you are implying does not exist, in my view.