2021 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, Apr 16 - 18

[Jolle]

F1 is the most diverse workforce in the world. Stop trying to muddy the "meaning behind" other people's gripes when their favorite does not win.

It's not a gripe, when someone starts claiming nationality this or nationality that.......

Nationalism != racism.

The hometown boys/girls will always have a following. It's totally acceptable, and even requested by FOM. Why 2 races in Alonso's Spain? Because Nationalism draws HUGE crowds to sporting events if the hometown participant has a chance of winning.

There is a clear difference between patriotism (being proud of your heritage/country) or nationalism (believing that you are better then other counties/cultures/colours).

Patriotism is rooting for your club, wearing orange, red or white during football matches, etc. Nationalism is racist by nature.

[Just_a_fan]

F1 is the most diverse workforce in the world. Stop trying to muddy the "meaning behind" other people's gripes when their favorite does not win.

It's not a gripe, when someone starts claiming nationality this or nationality that.......

Nationalism != racism.

Actually, it generally does. But here is not the place for that discussion. I can hear a mod approaching...

[jjn9128]

I feel really sorry for Vettel these days. If he's not having bad luck, then he's having no luck at all.

Hamilton on the other hand is the luckiest driver to ever live. Every time he makes a mistake there's a safety car or red flag to help him climb back through the slower cars.

[zeph]

The sad thing is that some people will actually believe that.

'Lads. Quick! Risk your lives so Hamilton can get more points!'

Well, can't blame folks for believing it if they know about the 2008 Renault/Piquet shenanigans.

That was somewhat different to this. One driver compared to two drivers, with other cars at high speed behind) And you saw the genuine anger from both drivers afterward. Only a complete brainless idiot could even begin to think it was done on purpose.

of course, just kiddin’

[holeindalip]

I think you guys are being too hard on Perez for his results today, he clearly had a steering issue today as they even swapped steering wheels.

Bottas And Russell is down to both drivers as Bottas pushed russell out which he had room but was a damp track with drs open means the rear end was light anyways so score that one 50/50

Max pushed Hamilton out wide in turn one but in no way deserved a penalty.

Let’s all just enjoy the mixed up grid we have this year as both races have been a treat to watch.

[Just_a_fan]

Stand out today was that many drivers made mistakes, but two made mistakes and still maximised their result.

Lewis dropped it, kept it going, got out and fought through to second. Max dropped it during the safety car but managed to collect it and go to win. Most others suffered for their mistakes. The top two drivers on the grid didn't.

Both enjoyed a spot of "luck" but both took that and turned it in to a result.

Both Max and Lewis were honest - both put their hands up to their mistakes. No complaining or blaming. Class from both of them.

[JRindt]

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/wolf ... s/6332955/

“It meant taking risks, and the other car is a Mercedes in front of him. In any driver’s development, for a young driver, you must never lose this global perspective”

Does Wolff realise this is a race and Russell drives for Williams and not Mercedes?

I mean, sure you can criticise Russell’s execution of the move. But, to say that he shouldn’t even attempt the move because the car ahead is a Mercedes is crazy

[dans79]

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/wolf ... s/6332955/
Does Wolff realise this is a race and Russell drives for Williams and not Mercedes?

Mercedes team principal Wolff said that while there was “never such a situation in life where one is 100% to blame and the other zero”, he questioned why Russell made the move that he did, particularly as a Mercedes young driver.

[El Scorchio]

I feel really sorry for Vettel these days. If he's not having bad luck, then he's having no luck at all.

Hamilton on the other hand is the luckiest driver to ever live. Every time he makes a mistake there's a safety car or red flag to help him climb back through the slower cars.

Such is life I suppose.
I think all the drivers have their share of luck, both good and bad. I think with Hamilton (as with all drivers) the bits of good luck tend to stick in people's mind more than the bad, particularly if they aren't fond of him, but it goes both ways.

[El Scorchio]

Well, can't blame folks for believing it if they know about the 2008 Renault/Piquet shenanigans.

That was somewhat different to this. One driver compared to two drivers, with other cars at high speed behind) And you saw the genuine anger from both drivers afterward. Only a complete brainless idiot could even begin to think it was done on purpose.

of course, just kiddin’

Totally- but you are right. There will definitely be people who genuinely think it was rigged. I expect it'll probably be mentioned on this very thread in the next few days, if it hasn't already!

[Just_a_fan]

I feel really sorry for Vettel these days. If he's not having bad luck, then he's having no luck at all.

Hamilton on the other hand is the luckiest driver to ever live. Every time he makes a mistake there's a safety car or red flag to help him climb back through the slower cars.

Such is life I suppose.
I think all the drivers have their share of luck, both good and bad. I think with Hamilton (as with all drivers) the bits of good luck tend to stick in people's mind more than the bad, particularly if they aren't fond of him, but it goes both ways.

What's interesting is the drivers that maximise their "good luck". Some would have been happy to pick up some points after. The best maximise their results.

[siskue2005]

I feel really sorry for Vettel these days. If he's not having bad luck, then he's having no luck at all.

Hamilton on the other hand is the luckiest driver to ever live. Every time he makes a mistake there's a safety car or red flag to help him climb back through the slower cars.

Really?
Did you watch 2007 season? Did you watch 2010 season? Did you watch 2012 season?
Have you seen how many countless races he had lost due to luck,?
From where I see, luck balances itself
He had had his bad luck and good luck like today

[914hald]

Think this Rus-Bot incident reminds me of Ham- Ros of Spain 2016.

Bottas slides slowly towards Georges line, without being direct.
Could look like he didnt see George. And George moves to violently with DRS open, goes on the White Line, gets wheel spin and touches the gras.

[nevill3]

So Alonso has got his first point of the season.....the first since 2018....

[epo]

Boy! Toto Wolff thinks he's the be all and end all in F1!

Great managers would say what he has in private to get his point across but honestly, if I were George I would seriously consider other options in F1. It's very clear that he is a serious talent and Mercedes are absolutely all eggs in the Hamilton basket. I've said it for numerous years that it is Hamilton that is making Wolff look good. Does he even realise that George could be his best bet at the championships in a couple of years? Hell! He could be the best bet if Lewis is done after this year.

I'm all for hard task masters but George has been very loyal and patient for three years when it is very evident that he deserves to be in the second Mercedes seat. Whoever the crash was down to, did the Williams have any business to be in a position to be passing a Mercedes there? George is no less accomplished than Lewis was in 2007 and Lewis straight away got into a McLaren. George has had his internship and a lot of teams would gladly lap him up if Mercedes decide to part ways with him.

Pretty low blow from a man who's done just that in his time in F1. I really hope a time comes when he gets it back in spades.

Yeah because he simple is he is big Mercedes boss, and he earned all the respect he should get, so many WK's, great car, great team, great drivers. Toto is really nice guy, but also a Boss and has proven enough to be respected and be that boss. Russel should have patience as he is a Mercedes junior he will get his chance, the guy is 21 yo, c'mon.

I'm not a Mercedes fan at all, but I do respect Toto and his achievements.