Considering the big blue flashing lights, and how close to George Lewis was well before the braking zone, George should have been off the racing line, and traveling at a reduced speed just like the other cars behind him where.basti313 wrote: ↑21 Apr 2021, 15:19If I am not mistaken, Russel was on the absolute edge of the track. No idea how you can give more room there on the outside.
Furthermore the position of Russel did not play a big role, it was simply too wet on the inside. You can see that Ham simply slides across the corner due to the wet tires.
There is only one solution...wait for the straight. Any move to the wet side in this corner would have ended with one or two cars in the gravel. If Rus would have done the stunt to go on the wet side, the most probable outcome is sliding into Lewis.
On a damp track with only tramrails to drive, you can’t get off line to let someone pass. You do that on a straight. If Russell gave Hamilton on that part, he would have gone off the same way Hamilton himself did (and Alonso a few corners later avoiding the rubble).dans79 wrote: ↑21 Apr 2021, 15:39Considering the big blue flashing lights, and how close to George Lewis was well before the braking zone, George should have been off the racing line, and traveling at a reduced speed just like the other cars behind him where.basti313 wrote: ↑21 Apr 2021, 15:19If I am not mistaken, Russel was on the absolute edge of the track. No idea how you can give more room there on the outside.
Furthermore the position of Russel did not play a big role, it was simply too wet on the inside. You can see that Ham simply slides across the corner due to the wet tires.
There is only one solution...wait for the straight. Any move to the wet side in this corner would have ended with one or two cars in the gravel. If Rus would have done the stunt to go on the wet side, the most probable outcome is sliding into Lewis.
Instead he was to focused on passing bottas because of needing to prove a point, or brain fade.
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This is previous corner, more than close enough to know he needed to get out of the way (on the strait between the corners).
AFAIK, the rules are pretty clear that if a blue flag is waved, the driver being shown the blue flag must yield and make room. That includes lifting, braking, getting out of the way etc.
Yeah pretty much this. Russell could have given way before the braking zone, but he would have lost out to the cars in front of him. This is why I don't blame him at all. Lewis on the other hand should have been more cautious.dans79 wrote: ↑21 Apr 2021, 15:59This is previous corner, more than close enough to know he needed to get out of the way (on the strait between the corners).
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absolutely. lewis agreed that he was somewhat restless in that chase and could have done better.e30ernest wrote: ↑21 Apr 2021, 16:03Yeah pretty much this. Russell could have given way before the braking zone, but he would have lost out to the cars in front of him. This is why I don't blame him at all. Lewis on the other hand should have been more cautious.dans79 wrote: ↑21 Apr 2021, 15:59This is previous corner, more than close enough to know he needed to get out of the way (on the strait between the corners).
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Yes, as usual, he put his hand up and admitted making a mistake. Didn't try to blame anyone else.
You have to give way within three marshal posts (who wave blue flags), not immediately. Although the front runners like it to be.Phil wrote: ↑21 Apr 2021, 16:01AFAIK, the rules are pretty clear that if a blue flag is waved, the driver being shown the blue flag must yield and make room. That includes lifting, braking, getting out of the way etc.
If there is a dry line, then that responsibility goes to the driver who is required to take action (aka the driver being lapped). It's certainly not within the rules to wait for the next straight or something.
Straight or corner, I would expect a driver to make it easiest to being lapped by taking appropriate action immediately. It just so often happens that mostly it isn't done this way and the stewards are rather lenient in applying warnings and penalties (not always though!).
experience is the biggest teacher.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑21 Apr 2021, 16:27Yes, as usual, he put his hand up and admitted making a mistake. Didn't try to blame anyone else.
Based on several of the onboards, marshalls weren't waving flags for Max or Lewis, they seemed to be 100% relying on the light boards.
I've watched the onboard from both Hamilton and Russell a few times now, Russell moves to the outside of the track, opening up the inside and takes a wider line in approach to the corner to make room for Hamilton to take the apex.
I'm aware, that's his way of doing what he is required to do (let Lewis by), and loose the minimal amount of time to Bottas. Lewis should have just tucked in behind him and then complained on the radio.Jolle wrote: ↑21 Apr 2021, 17:00I've watched the onboard from both Hamilton and Russell a few times now, Russell moves to the outside of the track, opening up the inside and takes a wider line in approach to the corner to make room for Hamilton to take the apex.