2021 French Grand Prix - Le Castellet, June 18 - 20

[PlatinumZealot]

TBH I don’t really see how anyone would be particularly offended by that. Unless the person who inputs the data for the tyre percentage Gfx posts on here?

I guess that´s the case.

Thinking more deeply about it, I now think it makes perfect sense. When the tire is at 100%, it has peak grip and maximum durability left. When it is at, say, 50% the tyres have half the grip(friction coefficient of the tyre is reduced by 50%, so the cornering speed is reduced by 30%*) and the tyre is half way into having no durability whatsoever, anymore. At 0%, I assume the tyres have 0 grip left in them and/or durability is gone, so the tyre is about to fail.


*As we all know, if the cornering force is reduced by a factor of 0.5x, then the cornering speed should be accordingly reduced by the square root of such factor, which is about 0.7x

Not half the girp but half way through its expected usage. If it were half the grip, all cars would be in the barriers.

For example the Baku race graphic showed Hamilton had a bit more tyre life than Perez. At 10%, 20% respectively on the worst tyre. So the Mercs really are bit kinder on its tyres.

[Artur Craft]

Goodness, what a poor performance from Ferrari on S2. Leclerc was slower than MSC(who only did 1 fast lap on Q1) and Sainz was just 0.1s faster.

Giovinazzi and Raikkonen´s S2 also look poor compared to Mick. I wonder what´s going on with these cars on that sector.

edit: Strangely, even Hamilton(second best S2) is less than 0.4s faster than MSC on S2. Max sort of set himself apart from the grid and was 0.128s faster than LH there.

RB, Mercedes, Kimi and Mazepin apart, all other drivers ranged from 27.701s and 27.889s on S2. That seems abnormally close, I suppose S2 doesn´t demand much from the cars

https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files ... _v01_0.pdf

[Sieper]

Karun showed how Max gained the time. Different line into the chicane to carry more speed out of it.

[siskue2005]

Karun showed how Max gained the time. Different line into the chicane to carry more speed out of it.

There is no magic bullet
You gain something you lose something else
He lost time on entry and gained it back.. its all how ur setup works.. to change line accordingly.

[Sieper]

Since he has also interviewed Max. Max explained it, he cannot even do that agressive turn in as he has not the downforce to have the rear planted. But like you said, a trade off choice that was the right one.

[erudite450]

Since he has also interviewed Max. Max explained it, he cannot even do that agressive turn in as he has not the downforce to have the rear planted. But like you said, a trade off choice that was the right one.

The right one for HIS CAR. There's no magic bullet. Max was the best man on the day as he took pole but he also had the quickest car on the day.

[Wouter]

Sky Sports: Max looks back on pole lap

[Sieper]

Since he has also interviewed Max. Max explained it, he cannot even do that agressive turn in as he has not the downforce to have the rear planted. But like you said, a trade off choice that was the right one.

The right one for HIS CAR. There's no magic bullet. Max was the best man on the day as he took pole but he also had the quickest car on the day.

Yes for his car, don’t over respond, I wasn’t talking in general.

As for the quickest car, We don’t know that. If Perez would be on P2 then a definite yes, or if there was 1,5 seconds between Max and the first non RBR car. That is something we have seen countless times over the last years for Merc. But never for RBR in the hybrid age. Max 5 poles have all been with tenths. So far Max hasn’t even been able to get out of an undercut on the first stint on a non city track. But, yes the RBR is coming closer and closer and to me, I am now starting to believe in a real fair shot. For the first time.

[zibby43]

But only in qualifying on tires that won't see a single lap during the race.

True. But Merc are in trouble going forward at other circuits.

Weather going to be a wild card tomorrow.

A lot of the tracks going forward though you can pass at. Hungry would be the track that I would consider a problem.

Definitely. I just don’t know if they will be able to overtake, save for strategy. But even that option isn’t clear cut with the slow stops and slow outlaps.

[ringo]

Since he has also interviewed Max. Max explained it, he cannot even do that agressive turn in as he has not the downforce to have the rear planted. But like you said, a trade off choice that was the right one.

The right one for HIS CAR. There's no magic bullet. Max was the best man on the day as he took pole but he also had the quickest car on the day.

Yes for his car, don’t over respond, I wasn’t talking in general.

As for the quickest car, We don’t know that. If Perez would be on P2 then a definite yes, or if there was 1,5 seconds between Max and the first non RBR car. That is something we have seen countless times over the last years for Merc. But never for RBR in the hybrid age. Max 5 poles have all been with tenths. So far Max hasn’t even been able to get out of an undercut on the first stint on a non city track. But, yes the RBR is coming closer and closer and to me, I am now starting to believe in a real fair shot. For the first time.

Well he has the quickest car today. We see that from practice. Hamilton is just keeping him honest. The RB16 is the car to have for season. I will say it again. The most consistent car without any tyre drama or setup drama. The car works everywhere and is the best in the corners and on braking. As much as i would lile Lewis to defend the wdc, Max has a clear road to it bar any mistakes or reliability issues.

[214270]

The right one for HIS CAR. There's no magic bullet. Max was the best man on the day as he took pole but he also had the quickest car on the day.

Yes for his car, don’t over respond, I wasn’t talking in general.

As for the quickest car, We don’t know that. If Perez would be on P2 then a definite yes, or if there was 1,5 seconds between Max and the first non RBR car. That is something we have seen countless times over the last years for Merc. But never for RBR in the hybrid age. Max 5 poles have all been with tenths. So far Max hasn’t even been able to get out of an undercut on the first stint on a non city track. But, yes the RBR is coming closer and closer and to me, I am now starting to believe in a real fair shot. For the first time.

Well he has the quickest car today. We see that from practice. Hamilton is just keeping him honest. The RB16 is the car to have for season. I will say it again. The most consistent car without any tyre drama or setup drama. The car works everywhere and is the best in the corners and on braking. As much as i would lile Lewis to defend the wdc, Max has a clear road to it bar any mistakes or reliability issues.

Good summary

[Sieper]

If tomorrow Max can keep Lewis at 5 seconds in stint one, then yes. Like Lewis could almost always, for years. But so far Max was always in undercut threat bar Baku and Monaco.

[JPower]

Every pundit seems to think Ferrari has bad race pace but I really don't understand where that idea is coming from. The FP2 long runs looked perfectly fine.

Yeah, they outqualified themselves at Baku but ended right where they normally should be, which is behind Merc and Red Bull.

I do think Gasly will be a tough competitor though considering that car's straightline speed advantage. Same for Leclerc vs Norris. Rain would help Ferrari tremendously IMO.

[Sieper]

Every pundit seems to think Ferrari has bad race pace but I really don't understand where that idea is coming from. The FP2 long runs looked perfectly fine.

Yeah, they outqualified themselves at Baku but ended right where they normally should be, which is behind Merc and Red Bull.

I do think Gasly will be a tough competitor though considering that car's straightline speed advantage. Same for Leclerc vs Norris. Rain would help Ferrari tremendously IMO.

Ferrari is coming closer and closer. Leclerc was again a bit too much on the edge so Carlos could show his value also this time.

[selvam_e2002]

Race commentator informed that Ferrari using RIM to heat up the Tyre for one lap phase however you cannot use that technique in Race so they are suffering.