Points system to be scrapped for 2009

[Conceptual]

In my opinion every 3 second places should equal 2 wins.

Meaning you could have 15 for first, 10 for second, then filter through the remaining 6 places.

So 1.5 '2nds" (silvers) equals a win.... feasable, same difference to third? 1.5 "3rds" equal a 2nd?

Wait, isnt that:

12,9,6,5,4,3,2,1???

[Shaddock]

I think this will affect Ferrari more than any other team. They have two top class drivers and potential WC in 2009, both drivers are going to be fighting (pushing) for the wins if they are in a 1-2 position, even after the final pit stop. This will put pressure on the team to decide who they will promote to number 1 earlier in the season and may cause in fighting. Teams like Renault and McLaren are more likely to tell HK and NP to hold postion or even move over, that wont happen at Ferrari.

On the other hand, if you fluff qualifying, and end up at the back of the grid, you could opt to retire and save you engine for the next race and gain an extra ~30-50hp without the need of KERS.

Whose taking bets that we will be back to points next year

[jddh1]

Whose taking bets that we will be back to points next year

I'm hoping we are going to revert THIS year.

[zgred]

In my opinion every 3 second places should equal 2 wins.

Meaning you could have 15 for first, 10 for second, then filter through the remaining 6 places.

So 1.5 '2nds" (silvers) equals a win.... feasable, same difference to third? 1.5 "3rds" equal a 2nd?

Wait, isnt that:

12,9,6,5,4,3,2,1???

With common ratio = 1,5 of geometric series and final integer values is more like this:

22,15,10,6,4,3,2,1

Anybody want to test it with the 2008?

Edit: Thank You Kester :]

[Kester]

Under that system Massa would have won with 191, to Hamilton's 184.

[DaveKillens]

Please recall the incidents between Prost and Senna at the 1989, 90 Japanese GP. Each took the other out, and the WDC was decided. Here's an excerpt from Senna ...

"I think what happened in 1989 was unforgivable, and I will never forget it. I still struggle to cope with it even now. You know what took place here: Prost and I crashed at the chicane, when he turned into me. Afterwards, I rejoined the race, and I won it, but they decided against me, and that was not justice. What happened afterwards was... a theatre, but I could not say what I thought. If you do that, you get penalties, you get fined, you lose your license maybe. Is that a fair way of working? It is not...At Suzuka last year I asked the officials to change pole position from the right side of the track to the left. It was unfair, as it was, because the right side is always dirty, and there is less grip — you sweat to get pole position, and then you are penalized for it. And they said, "Yes, no problem". Then, what happened? Balestre gave an order that it wasn't to be changed. I know how the system works, and I thought this was really s***. So I said to myself, "OK, whatever happens, I'm going to get into the first corner first — I'm not prepared to let the guy (Alain Prost) turn into that corner before me. If I'm near enough to him, he can't turn in front of me — he just has to let me through." I didn't care if we crashed; I went for it. And he took a chance, turned in, and we crashed. It was building up, it was inevitable. It had to happen." So you did cause it then, someone said. "Why did I cause it?" Senna responded. "If you get f***** every time you try to do your job cleanly, within the system, what do you do? Stand back, and say thank you? No way. You should fight for what you think is right. If pole had been on the left, I'd have made it to the first corner in the lead, no problem. That was a bad decision to keep pole on the right, and it was influenced by Balestre. And the result was what happened in the first corner. I contributed to it, but it was not my responsibility".

Doesn't some of it appear familiar? Almost 20 years later, and politics are involved.

One subject worth considering is Hamilton's aggressiveness. Geez, we've all seen how he drives, what could happen if he finds himself in 2nd? The medal system almost forces him to mount some kind of charge. Pass and win, or crash, almost anyone in contention for the win faces that obstacle.

[nae]

its what bernie wants

more people talking about his money earner

b%cks to fairness

[vall]

I was thinking the same: driver A and B are in the fight for WDC. Both cars have the same pace and driver A lead, and it is obvious that driver B will have hard time to pass in notmal circumstances. What driver B should do with 2 laps remaining? Pus hard and wait for mistake of A, try aggressive and mad overtake attempt - if I do it I win, if we crush and are both out, I win again because I will not be able to overtake anyway.

Last year we had many cases with 2 drivers in the fight for the WDC in front.

[roost89]

I can't imagine this being held for too long, It stands a chance of not working at all with a calendar with an even number of races. Imagine 2 racers getting 9 wins and 9 2nd places each.
How would they figure out who had won then? First time for 2 WDC in the same year?

[Scotracer]

I can't imagine this being held for too long, It stands a chance of not working at all with a calendar with an even number of races. Imagine 2 racers getting 9 wins and 9 2nd places each.
How would they figure out who had won then? First time for 2 WDC in the same year?

Well under the current system they would have equal points too...I'm not sure how it works even now!

[nae]

dont worry the stewards will sort it out

and quickly too

[ISLAMATRON]

I can't imagine this being held for too long, It stands a chance of not working at all with a calendar with an even number of races. Imagine 2 racers getting 9 wins and 9 2nd places each.
How would they figure out who had won then? First time for 2 WDC in the same year?

There are higher odds of both drivers getting struck by lightning. The closest we got to that was McLaren in '88, and even then they didnt finish every race 1-2. Why do people want to base the points system on things that have a very low probability of happening? The driver with the most wins in all probability is the best combo of driver&car.

[Kester]

If drivers are on equal number of wins, and equal number of points, it will be however got the most second places, then third places, and so on so forth.

[Shaddock]

There is (was) a rule that states that if everything is even between two drivers, same number of wins, second places etc, the FIA then decides who IT thinks is the more deserving driver to win the championship.

[Conceptual]

There is (was) a rule that states that if everything is even between two drivers, same number of wins, second places etc, the FIA then decides who IT thinks is the more deserving driver to win the championship.

Now wouldn't THAT just start rioting in Paris?