2021 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 30 - Aug 01

[dans79]

Did i just see a Red Bull mechanic put a gopro in the camera mount on the side of the air intake?

I would have thought they would be using something more sophisticated than a gopro.

[Stormblessed]

Its annoying when the sky commentators keep talking among themselves or with another team member right when the driver radio comes on... How is there no coordination between the commentary box and the race director?

[Just_a_fan]

Its annoying when the sky commentators keep talking among themselves or with another team member right when the driver radio comes on... How is there no coordination between the commentary box and the race director?

There is a beeping sound that is supposed to warn the talking heads to shut up. Ted normally picks up on it when he's talking, but some of the others are too fond of their own voices.

[grubschumi13]

Mercedes are so much faster here.

[dans79]

Mercedes are so much faster here.

If Merc can lock out the front row that would be pretty significant imo. They are the only team to do it this year, and that was way back in Portugal.

[NathanOlder]

Mercedes are so much faster here.

If Merc can lock out the front row that would be pretty significant imo. They are the only team to do it this year, and that was way back in Portugal.

a 1-2 finish would be great. No one has a 1-2 yet this season.

[Stormblessed]

There is a beeping sound that is supposed to warn the talking heads to shut up. Ted normally picks up on it when he's talking, but some of the others are too fond of their own voices.
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Could understand when TP's are talking with them. Awful otherwise.. Pity those who pay for Sky F1 package.

[Big Tea]

Mercedes are so much faster here.

If Merc can lock out the front row that would be pretty significant imo. They are the only team to do it this year, and that was way back in Portugal.

Good for Merc, but I want to see Max v Lewis part 2 ( for the whole race, not one lap)

[selvam_e2002]

Mercedes are so much faster here.

If Merc can lock out the front row that would be pretty significant imo. They are the only team to do it this year, and that was way back in Portugal.

Good for Merc, but I want to see Max v Lewis part 2 ( for the whole race, not one lap)

sorry not this time

[godlameroso]

Verstappen's car alignment issue? Car that understeers then oversteers then understeers, it seems like an alignment issue to me. I'd look at using a little less rear camber first, and then front toe to fine tune the mid corner aero balance. Making the front more toe out(to a point) will increase mid corner understeer, making the front more toe in(to a point) will reduce mid corner understeer.

I don't know what the rear camber specification is this round. In any case that measurement is nearly meaningless in a dynamic sense.

From what I've seen, if you keep the nose down in the corners, you'll be fast in sector two, but slow in sector 1, and possibly sector 3 because it causes the rear end to get light, since you're delaying weight transfer to the rear. It will cause the car to oversteer on heavy braking and mid corner, which while useful for sector 2, it makes the driver work extra hard in sector 1 & 3(slow corners).

Perhaps a different driving style that matches the timing of the suspension may itself balance the car, while it may give up a tenth or two in sectors 1 and 3 more than makes up for it in sector 2.

[Stormblessed]

Good for Merc, but I want to see Max v Lewis part 2 ( for the whole race, not one lap)

Agreed! Would become a bit boring when one team steals the march on development race. To be fair though, VER is not happy with the setup yet, so still some time to be found by RB and maybe they ran low PU mode than normal.

Second weekend since Merc upgrade, and we still can't get a useful race pace comparison between Merc and RB.

[Big Tea]

Verstappen's car alignment issue? Car that understeers then oversteers then understeers, it seems like an alignment issue to me. I'd look at using a little less rear camber first, and then front toe to fine tune the mid corner aero balance. Making the front more toe out(to a point) will increase mid corner understeer, making the front more toe in(to a point) will reduce mid corner understeer.

I don't know what the rear camber specification is this round. In any case that measurement is nearly meaningless in a dynamic sense.

From what I've seen, if you keep the nose down in the corners, you'll be fast in sector two, but slow in sector 1, and possibly sector 3 because it causes the rear end to get light, since you're delaying weight transfer to the rear. It will cause the car to oversteer on heavy braking and mid corner, which while useful for sector 2, it makes the driver work extra hard in sector 1 & 3(slow corners).

Perhaps a different driving style that matches the timing of the suspension may itself balance the car, while it may give up a tenth or two in sectors 1 and 3 more than makes up for it in sector 2.

Sounds like a poorly rebuilt write off to me. ( ) Check the panel seams under the floor carpet.

[godlameroso]

Verstappen's car alignment issue? Car that understeers then oversteers then understeers, it seems like an alignment issue to me. I'd look at using a little less rear camber first, and then front toe to fine tune the mid corner aero balance. Making the front more toe out(to a point) will increase mid corner understeer, making the front more toe in(to a point) will reduce mid corner understeer.

I don't know what the rear camber specification is this round. In any case that measurement is nearly meaningless in a dynamic sense.

From what I've seen, if you keep the nose down in the corners, you'll be fast in sector two, but slow in sector 1, and possibly sector 3 because it causes the rear end to get light, since you're delaying weight transfer to the rear. It will cause the car to oversteer on heavy braking and mid corner, which while useful for sector 2, it makes the driver work extra hard in sector 1 & 3(slow corners).

Perhaps a different driving style that matches the timing of the suspension may itself balance the car, while it may give up a tenth or two in sectors 1 and 3 more than makes up for it in sector 2.

Sounds like a poorly rebuilt write off to me. ( ) Check the panel seams under the floor carpet.

Sounds like Verstappen is a fine tune away from putting .4 on Mercedes.

[Ryar]

Verstappen's car alignment issue? Car that understeers then oversteers then understeers, it seems like an alignment issue to me. I'd look at using a little less rear camber first, and then front toe to fine tune the mid corner aero balance. Making the front more toe out(to a point) will increase mid corner understeer, making the front more toe in(to a point) will reduce mid corner understeer.

I don't know what the rear camber specification is this round. In any case that measurement is nearly meaningless in a dynamic sense.

From what I've seen, if you keep the nose down in the corners, you'll be fast in sector two, but slow in sector 1, and possibly sector 3 because it causes the rear end to get light, since you're delaying weight transfer to the rear. It will cause the car to oversteer on heavy braking and mid corner, which while useful for sector 2, it makes the driver work extra hard in sector 1 & 3(slow corners).

Perhaps a different driving style that matches the timing of the suspension may itself balance the car, while it may give up a tenth or two in sectors 1 and 3 more than makes up for it in sector 2.

Sounds like a poorly rebuilt write off to me. ( ) Check the panel seams under the floor carpet.

Glad no one from Mercedes thinks Red Bull has added performance, like they did when the PU was introduced by RB. I wouldn't if they did.

[JPower]

I don't know what to make of the midfield just yet. I think both Ferrari and McLaren are holding back some.

Alpine looked good. Their car definitely has a sweet spot that is track dependent.

Ricciardo looking back to his normal gap to Lando.