2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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SoulPancake13 wrote:
29 Nov 2024, 20:30
AR3-GP wrote:
29 Nov 2024, 20:16
Anytime Sainz does better, the plethora of excuses come out for Leclerc...
No excuse here, just stating what Charles said on his radio. It is clear at this point that Sainz is doing a better job with tyre warmup than Charles is, which you can see in their driving styles, hence why Charles has better tyre management.
Do you know what temperatures Sainz's tires were at? It is just like the Mercedes thread. Russell is ahead. Then it must be that Hamilton was sabotaged by the team, or they changed his setup, or this, or that. ffs just credit Sainz and let it go. When it's the other way around nobody says Sainz's tires weren't warm or some other bs. Sainz didn't even have the upgraded floor.

The fact that the two of them will be teammates next year is the funniest thing.
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I don't know how many times it needs to be said that the floor is not a straight performance upgrade. However, it is disappointing the comfort from FP1 disappeared in SQ2.

Anyway, the same thing as has been usual the past few weekends. Q3 comes and Leclerc can't warm the tires. He really hates the C1s. Still, with such a small gap between the drivers I think the team also needs to look at the overall performance drop since FP1. Was it an expected drop because of differing fuel loads and conditions or did they truly lose pace?
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AR3-GP wrote:
29 Nov 2024, 20:33
SoulPancake13 wrote:
29 Nov 2024, 20:30
AR3-GP wrote:
29 Nov 2024, 20:16
Anytime Sainz does better, the plethora of excuses come out for Leclerc...
No excuse here, just stating what Charles said on his radio. It is clear at this point that Sainz is doing a better job with tyre warmup than Charles is, which you can see in their driving styles, hence why Charles has better tyre management.
Do you know what temperatures Sainz's tires were at? It is just like the Mercedes thread. Russell is ahead. Then it must be that Hamilton was sabotaged by the team, or they changed his setup, or this, or that.

The fact that the two of them will be teammates next year is the funniest thing.
Nice strawman. This is a constant trend this season and I didn't claim it wasn't Charles's fault, it is on him to adapt and overcome this and he hasn't since Mexico.

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SoulPancake13 wrote:
29 Nov 2024, 20:38
AR3-GP wrote:
29 Nov 2024, 20:33
SoulPancake13 wrote:
29 Nov 2024, 20:30


No excuse here, just stating what Charles said on his radio. It is clear at this point that Sainz is doing a better job with tyre warmup than Charles is, which you can see in their driving styles, hence why Charles has better tyre management.
Do you know what temperatures Sainz's tires were at? It is just like the Mercedes thread. Russell is ahead. Then it must be that Hamilton was sabotaged by the team, or they changed his setup, or this, or that.

The fact that the two of them will be teammates next year is the funniest thing.
Nice strawman. This is a constant trend this season and I didn't claim it wasn't Charles's fault, it is on him to adapt and overcome this and he hasn't since Mexico.
How do you know that Sainz's tires were warm? Have you seen the data?
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Leclerc must be relieved, he will have a weaker teammate next year...

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AR3-GP wrote:
29 Nov 2024, 20:39
SoulPancake13 wrote:
29 Nov 2024, 20:38
AR3-GP wrote:
29 Nov 2024, 20:33


Do you know what temperatures Sainz's tires were at? It is just like the Mercedes thread. Russell is ahead. Then it must be that Hamilton was sabotaged by the team, or they changed his setup, or this, or that.

The fact that the two of them will be teammates next year is the funniest thing.
Nice strawman. This is a constant trend this season and I didn't claim it wasn't Charles's fault, it is on him to adapt and overcome this and he hasn't since Mexico.
How do you know that Sainz's tires were warm? Have you seen the data?
Sainz didn't complain about it, Charles did. If they were cold, I'm sure Sainz would have said something. I don't get your point here. At the end, 0.029 separated them(mind you, I was talking about SQ2, not SQ3...)

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delete pls
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Sainz did better in this session.

He is a very fast driver, which can't be said for some clowns like Perez for example.
KimiRai wrote:
29 Nov 2024, 20:41
Leclerc must be relieved, he will have a weaker teammate next year...
One day you guys will realize that performance is massively impacted by the characteristics of the car. Maybe Lewis will like Ferrari balance next year and will perform much better.
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SoulPancake13 wrote:
29 Nov 2024, 20:41
AR3-GP wrote:
29 Nov 2024, 20:39
SoulPancake13 wrote:
29 Nov 2024, 20:38


Nice strawman. This is a constant trend this season and I didn't claim it wasn't Charles's fault, it is on him to adapt and overcome this and he hasn't since Mexico.
How do you know that Sainz's tires were warm? Have you seen the data?
Sainz didn't complain about it, Charles did. If they were cold, I'm sure Sainz would have said something. I don't get your point here. At the end, 0.029 separated them(mind you, I was talking about SQ2, not SQ3...)
Or maybe Sainz just gets on with it without complaining where everyone can hear it as an excuse and leaves it for private discussion.
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AR3-GP wrote:
29 Nov 2024, 20:33
ffs just credit Sainz and let it go.
=D> comment of the day

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AR3-GP wrote:
29 Nov 2024, 20:42
SoulPancake13 wrote:
29 Nov 2024, 20:41
AR3-GP wrote:
29 Nov 2024, 20:39


How do you know that Sainz's tires were warm? Have you seen the data?
Sainz didn't complain about it, Charles did. If they were cold, I'm sure Sainz would have said something. I don't get your point here. At the end, 0.029 separated them(mind you, I was talking about SQ2, not SQ3...)
Or maybe Sainz just gets on with it without complaining where everyone can hear it as an excuse and leaves it for private discussion.
And how do you know this? You are making assumptions just as I am. Also, Sainz is not one to stay silent lmao.

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venkyhere wrote:
29 Nov 2024, 20:43
AR3-GP wrote:
29 Nov 2024, 20:33
ffs just credit Sainz and let it go.
=D> comment of the day
I am giving credit to Sainz??? Good on him for qualifying in front, he is better at dealing with the tyre temp limitation than Charles, which shows in him finishing ahead...

It is like you guys can't read.

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AR3-GP wrote:
29 Nov 2024, 20:42
Or maybe Sainz just gets on with it without complaining where everyone can hear it as an excuse and leaves it for private discussion.
This is getting a little silly. Now Leclerc isn't allowed to tell the team about the issues he's having? It doesn't matter if his teammate is or isn't having the same issues, he's allowed to tell the team what he feels is limiting him...

There's so much to discuss about the car, team, and track, but everyone is fixating on a 0.030 gap between the drivers instead #-o I'm pretty sure every person involved in this discussion agrees Sainz did better, so I don't even understand what you guys are debating.

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SoulPancake13 wrote:
29 Nov 2024, 20:28
Front suspension change needs to be good, can't handle another year where the drivers can't express the pace of the car due to no temps. I have a feeling race pace will be strong here.
To fix front tyre temp issue they need to stiffen it up, which will bring low speed understeer and kerb riding issues just like Redbull. You can't have both, nor is there a win win situation where you have a bit of both (soft enough to ride kerbs and stiff enough to fire up tyres)
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Didn't see Sainz's interview, but Charles confirmed the car felt much different to FP1, a lot more understeer - both drivers complained about it on radio ; ). McLaren are just strongest here and even Merc will thrive with the lower temps. Let's hope for some chaos up front that doesn't affect either driver!