Nico Rosberg to retire from F1 (!)

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I find it surprising to see the amount of reasons people try to find to explain Rosberg's retirement.

He became a father, isn't that enough?

It would be for me, and I understand him perfectly, having being in his shoes. This was something exotic in the past, I know, but I believe it's more and more usual for a father to feel compelled to be present the first year of your kid at least.

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Shrieker wrote:.

@djos,

Button imho is no way better than Rosberg. In fact i do think Rosberg is clearly better than him. Can take Hamilton as a reference.
But if you take Lewis as a reference,
Jenson beat Lewis 1 out 3 attempts.
Nico beat Lewis 1 out of 4 attempts.

Both of those 1's have their reasons, but I'd say Nico's 1 was due to reasons beyond Lewis control. So Jenson beat Lewis fair and square. Oh and a little help from a certain Brazilian ;-)
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Postmoe wrote:I find it surprising to see the amount of reasons people try to find to explain Rosberg's retirement.

He became a father, isn't that enough?

It would be for me, and I understand him perfectly, having being in his shoes. This was something exotic in the past, I know, but I believe it's more and more usual for a father to feel compelled to be present the first year of your kid at least.
This is also the most understandable reason for me. I have to travel around 4-5 days every second week and this is so annoying. Before I had my child it was adventure, now it is pain.
For the same reason I can not picture Vettel to do this any longer if the success will not come back.
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basti313 wrote:
Postmoe wrote:I find it surprising to see the amount of reasons people try to find to explain Rosberg's retirement.

He became a father, isn't that enough?

It would be for me, and I understand him perfectly, having being in his shoes. This was something exotic in the past, I know, but I believe it's more and more usual for a father to feel compelled to be present the first year of your kid at least.
This is also the most understandable reason for me. I have to travel around 4-5 days every second week and this is so annoying. Before I had my child it was adventure, now it is pain.
For the same reason I can not picture Vettel to do this any longer if the success will not come back.
Except that Rosberg himself said that if he had finished second he wouldn't have retired.

The baby is undoubtedly a factor, but without the title it seems that spending time with the kid alone wouldn't have made him stop.

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"This is the first time he's won in 18 years, hence why it was not a surprise that he decided to stop."

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/ ... -formula-1

Not very elegant, Lewis. I hope your next team mate makes you miss Nico. Thinking in the lines of Alonso or Verstappen...

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NathanOlder wrote:But if you take Lewis as a reference,
Jenson beat Lewis 1 out 3 attempts.
Nico beat Lewis 1 out of 4 attempts.

Both of those 1's have their reasons, but I'd say Nico's 1 was due to reasons beyond Lewis control. So Jenson beat Lewis fair and square. Oh and a little help from a certain Brazilian ;-)
Rosberg never faced a version of Hamilton as poor as the one in 2011 (who kept crashing into others). Mind you, even in 2011 Lewis was still comfortably faster than Jenson in qualifying (13-6). I'm pretty sure that Nico too would have beat Lewis if he was driving the other McLaren that season. Lewis was going through a mid-life crisis.

Whenever Hamilton's head was in the right place (2010 and 2012), he had Jenson beat comfortably.

As for Rosberg, he will be forever remembered as the guy who, unlike Webber and Barrichello before him, didn't know when he was beaten.

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Yeah 2011 was Lewis's worst season in F1, all the comings together with Massa - a few DNF's due to this as I remember.

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Reading some of the speculation over their new driver is making me laugh, Andrew Benson that clown at the BBC has Paul di Resta @ 5/10, what a tool.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/38185491

Redbull, Ferrari, Macca wont let anyone go that's for certain, they don't give good drivers to other top teams unless they have a good replacement, and they don't.

I think the same for Williams too, they've just lost Massa so Bottas is going nowhere, there could be some horse trading among the other Merc powered teams (engine £$ discount) but there's no one who is top tier.

All this has happened so late I don't think Merc have much choice, I can't see past Wehrlein, a one year contract then look again in the summer, unless he does well.

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Unc1eM0nty wrote: All this has happened so late I don't think Merc have much choice, I can't see past Wehrlein, a one year contract then look again in the summer, unless he does well.
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Everyone has their reasons but about the bravery comments and the being a father and his choosing to enjoy life, family and such...

The only one that knows is Nico, had he not won a championship this year, would he have retired? He signed a 3 year contract not too long ago. His answer would make a world of difference in the many opinions offered to explain what is otherwise an unprecedented event in the sport.
“I never give up,” he said. “So if I had come second I would have gone on for another year next year definitely.”
EDIT: actually just found the answer.
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I don't think he was brave at all for leaving. A few weeks from now we will be less emotional about this. It takes more bravery to continue in Formula 1. Its always easier to give up and go home and go fishing. His retirement puts into perspective the kind of men Alonso, Lewis, Vettel, Kimi, Shumacher and other racers who can never be satisfied; the ones with the insatiable hunger for speed and Adrenalin. Those men were born to race, and probably want to die racing. they don't feel alive if they aren't competing, their brains are wired one way and one way only. A special breed of men.
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I think Wehrlein for 1 season, if he's looking good by the end of summer, sign him up on a multi year contract. If not then they can go after Vettel. Win win for Mercedes. Wehrlein gets his chance, and Lewis should be happy with Pascal. Winners all round.
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He stopped because he has his WDC title. Simple as that, he's been clear as day about it.
Also claimed he wouldn't have stopped if he wouldn't have gotten that WDC title.

The contract made with Merc for the next 2 years was made as a safety net should he lose out this year.
Talks with Ferrari were made to expand his view whether there might have been possibilities elsewhere.

He remained silent because one could wonder whether Mercedes would have 'treated' him differently if he had stated
that he'd stop racing immediately when he has the WDC. I'm rather sure they would have treated him differently one
one hand, but then again, i still find the Wehrlein situation rather 'suspicious'.
Then again, it's been mentioned Wehrlein is 'difficult' and the engineers don't 'want' to work with him. If that really is the case,
then there's no way he's going to Mercedes.

Either way, Nico leaves a big empty hole now. And yes, this is unpresedented.
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June this year.
As Nico Rosberg's expiring contract comes under the spotlight, Daimler chief Dieter Zetsche has revealed his vision for Mercedes' F1 "future". "Pascal (Wehrlein) is our future," Zetsche is quoted by the Swiss newspaper Blick.
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TAG wrote:Everyone has their reasons but about the bravery comments and the being a father and his choosing to enjoy life, family and such...

The only one that knows is Nico, had he not won a championship this year, would he have retired? He signed a 3 year contract not too long ago. His answer would make a world of difference in the many opinions offered to explain what is otherwise an unprecedented event in the sport.
“I never give up,” he said. “So if I had come second I would have gone on for another year next year definitely.”
EDIT: actually just found the answer.
Yes, its really strange that Nico signed a 3 year contract after protracted negotiations only for him to walk out without warning. You have to wonder why he bothered or if he can stick to long term goals (team and personal).
It is a clear failure of management from Mercedes that they were not able to spot such an unstable team member even after so many years with them. Now they have just one experienced driver with the driver market effectively closed, no world champion to boast of, no photo shoots and other endorsements and so forth. A right old mess.

The signs were always there with Nico. It takes a particular kind of character to want to get ahead by wishing that a team mate would crash - something Nico did quite openly throughout 2014 and 2015.

Looking through the season, the FIA also has part of the blame to shoulder. We saw them apply rules in the most confused and inconsistent ways imaginable; pole times were improved under waved yellows, some drivers were allowed to make dangerous moves under braking... This year has been a real low, and F1 gaining a champ who is too weak to defend the title just creams the cake. The circus has really come to town.
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