Italian GP 2010 - Monza

[Confused_Andy]

Yeah McLaren focused on long runs with the soft tyres, the primes were used for short stints which set the laptimes, so we're still to see McLaren's true qualifying pace.

[ell66]

Yeah McLaren focused on long runs with the soft tyres, the primes were used for short stints which set the laptimes, so we're still to see McLaren's true qualifying pace.

naaa they did do a low fuel run on the softs, and went a tiny tiny bit slower than there time on the primes.
i think this was due to traffic, circuit not rubbered in as much as it was later in the session and the drivers not quite hooking the lap up.

[marcush.]

yep ham did improve on his sector times but had to abadon the run ..so we´ll have to wait and see..

[raymondu999]

Yeah. It was a Toro in the way. Buemi or Alguersuari, can't remember

[one_o_six]

Hi,
Do you guys think itis possible to guess if McLaren will use f-duct, or is it early to tell?
Rgds,
J

[raymondu999]

They'll make an announcement on it, don't worry

[myurr]

Yeah McLaren focused on long runs with the soft tyres, the primes were used for short stints which set the laptimes, so we're still to see McLaren's true qualifying pace.

naaa they did do a low fuel run on the softs, and went a tiny tiny bit slower than there time on the primes.
i think this was due to traffic, circuit not rubbered in as much as it was later in the session and the drivers not quite hooking the lap up.

Both cars hit traffic on their first couple of laps I think, this definitely happened to Hamilton (I think it was a Lotus that was in his way).

Chandhock was saying on the commentary that the options may not provide that much of an advantage here - there aren't many corners and the rear of the car tends to be a little more unstable on the option when compared to the prime. Could be that the McLaren setup worked better on the primes and that they'll dial it in to the options a bit more overnight / in FP3. The Ferrari's and Red Bull's both seemed to go quite a lot quicker on the option runs, so either their setups suited those tyres more or were running different fuel levels to the McLaren's (either more fuel throughout the prime runs, or less during the option runs).

[WhiteBlue]

When Hamilton used soft tyres they were not new but used. They have not given it a serious try to go really quick. My feeling is they will use the flat wing without F-duct we saw on Hamilton's car today. It had half the wing angle that Button ran.

[marcush.]

Mercedes is using F-duct ! admitedly with reduced effectiveness ...as stated by Ross brawn...due to the small rear wing and AoA..
Translated : We have not removed our f-duct piping but as our drivers cannot tell the difference on a normal track why bother here ..it makes them feel better lets hope..

Funny enough both drivers seemed to have high speed understeer front tyres washing out ...hows that possible with THAT pretend rear wing????

[Intego]

Did you see that? Virgins on top of speed trap! =D>

[marcush.]

very strange comparing FP1/Fp2 sector times:
whereas Hamilton is improved in sector 1 by .7 seconds ,Button by .4s and the Mercedes boys who were overall quickest in sector 1 in FP1 were now even going slower in Fp2 in sector 1...:
btw Hamiltons sectors in FP2 would have been enough to match Vettels best sectors .

[andrew]

01 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Renault 1.22.839
02 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1.22.915 +0.076
03 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1.23.061 +0.222
04 Lewis Hamilton McLaren Mercedes 1.23.154 +0.315
05 Jenson Button McLaren Mercedes 1.23.210 +0.371
06 Mark Webber Red Bull Renault 1.23.415 +0.576
07 Rubens Barrichello Williams Cosworth 1.23.708 +0.869
08 Robert Kubica Renault 1.23.709 +0.870
09 Nico Hulkenberg Williams Cosworth 1.23.852 +1.013
10 Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP 1.23.857 +1.018
11 Adrian Sutil Force India Mercedes 1.24.181 +1.342
12 Vitantonio Liuzzi Force India Mercedes 1.24.380 +1.541
13 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1.24.407 +1.568
14 Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP 1.24.448 +1.609
15 Sébastien Buemi Toro Rosso Ferrari 1.24.517 +1.678
16 Pedro de la Rosa Sauber Ferrari 1.24.547 +1.708
17 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber Ferrari 1.24.785 +1.946
18 Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso Ferrari 1.25.106 +2.267
19 Jarno Trulli Lotus Cosworth 1.26.204 +3.365
20 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus Cosworth 1.26.306 +3.467
21 Lucas di Grassi Virgin Racing Cosworth 1.26.631 +3.792
22 Timo Glock Virgin Racing Cosworth 1.26.676 +3.837
23 Sakon Yamamoto HRT F1 Cosworth 1.29.498 +6.659
24 Bruno Senna HRT F1 Cosworth -.—.--- +-.---

[ell66]

When Hamilton used soft tyres they were not new but used. They have not given it a serious try to go really quick. My feeling is they will use the flat wing without F-duct we saw on Hamilton's car today. It had half the wing angle that Button ran.

i never noticed he was used options as i figured it was his first run onte softer tyre all day. did jenson do the same?
i cant seepast hailton on pole tomorow.

[ell66]

Did you see that? Virgins on top of speed trap! =D>

its hardly a suprise considering there wing levels, have you seen there front wing? lol its tiny.
from the onboard footage with glock you could see just how nervous the car was.

[Intego]

Did you see that? Virgins on top of speed trap! =D>

its hardly a suprise considering there wing levels, have you seen there front wing? lol its tiny.
from the onboard footage with glock you could see just how nervous the car was.

Yes, I know. In an interview Glock said the car was hardly driveable plus they had changed to a long gear ratio which they have to reverse.
But it feels like the Cossie's getting better ...

From the Virgin Thread:

congrats to Virgin Timo and Lucas both toping the Speed trap at monza, that shows their car is slippery, so now they just add some downforce and get around the corners