2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

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Ferrari International Assistance is back. The race director and stewards should be investigated.
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FittingMechanics wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 21:55
CjC wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 21:54
mwillems wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 21:49


Fair enough, but i still don't think those flags were obvious enough and the green board shortly after distracting and misleading.
A yellow light comes on their steering wheel too.
Lando has just had a nightmare and fair play to him he’s taking it on the chin.
Doesn't seem like he had anything light up on his dash but maybe I am missing something.
Top left of his wheel there was a light…. Could have been his DRS light though.
Anyway I’m pretty sure all drivers they have dashboard lights for yellow and red flags. Could be wrong though.
Just a fan's point of view

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CjC wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 21:59
FittingMechanics wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 21:55
CjC wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 21:54


A yellow light comes on their steering wheel too.
Lando has just had a nightmare and fair play to him he’s taking it on the chin.
Doesn't seem like he had anything light up on his dash but maybe I am missing something.
Top left of his wheel there was a light…. Could have been his DRS light though.
Anyway I’m pretty sure all drivers they have dashboard lights for yellow and red flags. Could be wrong though.
Max and others were saying that the safety car lights didn't work (I think on the dash), so maybe there were issues with the system notifying driver dashes. It would explain it. Norris would have done a minor lift like Verstappen if he saw it.

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mwillems wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 21:30
bananapeel23 wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 21:14
Slahinki wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 21:11
https://x.com/victorabadf1/status/1863291044101554374

Neither Ferrari lifted for the yellows apparently.
The Yellow was flashing on and off constantly. Was it even on when Leclerc and Sainz drove by? They were ~13 and ~17 seconds behind Verstappen, respectively.
It should have been on, since the root issue had not been resolved at all.
Well yes, but it was only yellow for one lap until the yellow/red slippery track marker came on, despite the problem being unresolved.

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bananapeel23 wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 22:07
mwillems wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 21:30
bananapeel23 wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 21:14


The Yellow was flashing on and off constantly. Was it even on when Leclerc and Sainz drove by? They were ~13 and ~17 seconds behind Verstappen, respectively.
It should have been on, since the root issue had not been resolved at all.
Well yes, but it was only yellow for one lap until the yellow/red slippery track marker came on, despite the problem being unresolved.
It's not as severe as double yellow, yet this counted for nothing.
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CjC wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 21:51
Dafnalina and this guy:

https://x.com/F0URMULA1/status/1863273749673300195

Reckon Max didn’t lift under a yellow flag earlier in the season and only got a 5 second penalty. Just wondering if any ones which race this happened in so I can check for myself.
Brazil's sprint, VSC infrinegment

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bananapeel23 wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 21:14
Slahinki wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 21:11
https://x.com/victorabadf1/status/1863291044101554374

Neither Ferrari lifted for the yellows apparently.
The Yellow was flashing on and off constantly. Was it even on when Leclerc and Sainz drove by? They were ~13 and ~17 seconds behind Verstappen, respectively.
There was a flying double yellow - just as it was for Norris. Their engineers were on the radio, Leclerc does lift slightly but for Sainz it doesn't seem he lifts.

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bananapeel23 wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 22:07
mwillems wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 21:30
bananapeel23 wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 21:14


The Yellow was flashing on and off constantly. Was it even on when Leclerc and Sainz drove by? They were ~13 and ~17 seconds behind Verstappen, respectively.
It should have been on, since the root issue had not been resolved at all.
Well yes, but it was only yellow for one lap until the yellow/red slippery track marker came on, despite the problem being unresolved.
Stella says it was actually removed and the mirror was still there

https://racingnews365.com/mclaren-deman ... is-penalty

I want to download the data when the kids are in bed and see when the flags were out.
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Dafnalina wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 22:15
CjC wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 21:51
Dafnalina and this guy:

https://x.com/F0URMULA1/status/1863273749673300195

Reckon Max didn’t lift under a yellow flag earlier in the season and only got a 5 second penalty. Just wondering if any ones which race this happened in so I can check for myself.
Brazil's sprint, VSC infrinegment
Thanks.
That’s not comparable though surely? As in 2 totally different scenario's?
Just a fan's point of view

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McLaren needs to get Sainz investigated.

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FittingMechanics wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 22:24
McLaren needs to get Sainz investigated.
Needs to get every relevant driver that finished ahead of Norris investigated, really.

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Slahinki wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 22:27
FittingMechanics wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 22:24
McLaren needs to get Sainz investigated.
Needs to get every relevant driver that finished ahead of Norris investigated, really.
I had a quick look, for some the double yellow stopped waving (they were told it is going on off). Sainz would be enough.

He was told about the flag so he may have done a small lift, hard to.say without throttle trace.

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Zak has already said they won't do anything. This is why we will lose the WCC. Team full of cowards. Only decision they appealed iirc was Oscar's track limits in Austria. They let Lando take the blame for everything this season.

RB would be raising hell over this


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Sainz should be penalized


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Perhaps the biggest problem is that they took so much time to give him the penalty It happend on lap 30. If he gets it immediately he can fight back and with late SC he would have had a good chance to get proper points.

All that could go wrong did. Even Sainz got good points after his puncture, Leclerc gains a spot on Piastri through SC (another mistake by strategy team).