Do you believe in UFO?

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Do you believe in UFO?

Yes, I saw them
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Yes, I believe but didnt saw them
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Maybe yes, maybe no
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I'm will not believe before I will not seen them
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20%
No, all videos and photos with UFO is fake!
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Total votes: 51

Nando
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I do and i think it´s just a matter of time before governments around the world will finally let the lid on what really happened "that day"

Roswell is a fine example.

"Saucer has crashed says Military!!!" first page on the news
"Military say it was a weather balloon!!" Next day

I´ll take option 1 as option 2 seems like a blatant cover-up and a story you could only sell to dumb people.

Apparently that weather balloon was so valuable they had to transport the parts in two different planes to make sure they did not loose the load.
Yea that sounds like a weather balloon alright....NOT.

NASA doesn´t exactly try to put out the fire either. Believe all you want but it´s pretty hard to ignore what is being said in this video by astronauts.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woHgQdKsvRk[/youtube]

Mexican Military chasing Saucers.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lyfu1kJntjo[/youtube]

3 options,

1, It´s man made aircraft (possibly back-engineered from a crashed saucer like Roswell)
2, the Mexican Government/Military is lying.
3, It´s not man made and it´s so far ahead of us technologically that it´s better to just keep quiet on all the sightings which btw ramped up after we started blowing nukes on the planet and it´s more reports for every day that goes by regarding UFO´s.

So my theory is that it´s been put on a lid.
"Il Phenomeno" - The one they fear the most!

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Nando
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Should also say i´ve seen one UFO once. Still baffled to this day and i even reported it to the UFO investigation bureau here but they said Chinese Lantern despite me telling them it was way bigger, way closer and travelled way to perfect through the air to be a small bag with a light stuck in it.

I was so stunned i could not even take out my cellphone and take a photo.. it was just pure light that thing, no shape or anything.
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N12ck
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Nando wrote:Should also say i´ve seen one UFO once. Still baffled to this day and i even reported it to the UFO investigation bureau here but they said Chinese Lantern despite me telling them it was way bigger, way closer and travelled way to perfect through the air to be a small bag with a light stuck in it.

I was so stunned i could not even take out my cellphone and take a photo.. it was just pure light that thing, no shape or anything.
Chinese lanterns do float very smoothly and perfectly, there is no wobbling with them. They can appear very big, I have seen a 12ft one launched, and looking out at sea, I could imagine people reporting that as a UFO, however they do float smoothly, they don't appear to flicker due to the fuel you use in them, and they can be very big (as I have just discussed) so don't rule out the possibility of a Chinese lantern immediately, not that I am saying yours is definitely a Chinese lantern, I cannot say that as I wasn't there however, going off what you have said, that would be the most plausible explanation
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Cam
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And here's Nando about 20 mins before he saw the UFO :lol: Notice he says you don't 'hallucinate' - he was wrong!! :lol:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGH0UZnE_xk[/youtube]
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Belatti
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Many things are said about light years and long distances, but I think there might be another way, like in Jodie Fosters "contact" movie
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Nando
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N12ck wrote:Chinese lanterns do float very smoothly and perfectly, there is no wobbling with them. They can appear very big, I have seen a 12ft one launched, and looking out at sea, I could imagine people reporting that as a UFO, however they do float smoothly, they don't appear to flicker due to the fuel you use in them, and they can be very big (as I have just discussed) so don't rule out the possibility of a Chinese lantern immediately, not that I am saying yours is definitely a Chinese lantern, I cannot say that as I wasn't there however, going off what you have said, that would be the most plausible explanation
Problem is though that this one wasn´t far away, hell i could probably spit on it if i gathered some momentum.

I´ve seen plenty of chinese lanterns and they are quite visible even pretty far away. However this one was almost to close.
then the trajectory of it, i know lanterns can be quite stable if the conditions allow it but this one looked like gravity had no effect, no wind or anything either. a constant speed as well despite wind and everything.

Almost as if you were to draw a line in the sky and it would follow that line to the dot, i´m talking about millimeter solid.
It bugs the crap out of me that i did not take out my phone but to tell you the truth, i was gobsmacked, me and my friend just stood there with our mouths open until it passed by the house.

to give a rough explanation it was the size of a shopping cart, had one massive ball of light then as it passed by the balcony you could vaguely see a smaller ball of light that changed color from red/blue/green in an irregular "beat" for a lack of a better word.
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Nando
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And to answer Cam, i was 100% sober when i saw it.

Would be great to get some feedback on the two videos i posted.

Edit: should also say i was like you Cam, laughing and joking about it like people were crazy.
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Cam
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Nando wrote:And to answer Cam, i was 100% sober when i saw it.

Would be great to get some feedback on the two videos i posted.

Edit: should also say i was like you Cam, laughing and joking about it like people were crazy.
Thanks for being a sport Nando, I was only joking with you.

I've seen several events in the sky which my analytical/creative brain found unexplainable at the time. Each and every time, after the fact, there was proof that is was nothing abnormal. Let me give you an example:
One dark night we (was with a group of people) witnessed a single green light appear in the sky, it then broke off into 5 lights, which moved toward the ground, only it wasn't a straight line or arc, they moved left and right as they fell. Well my brain couldn't explain that and several people were actually scared with real fear. Know what it was? Skydivers. 5 jumped out of a plane in the middle of the night covered in green glow sticks.

Unfortunately this planet is filled with liars, attention seekers and people who jump to easy conclusions, combine this with a society who'll believe anything their told - and the rest is history. Remember, the world believed things were factual at the same time they believed the earth was flat. It takes very little convincing and even less evidence.

The universe is too large and our science abilities too young, to confidently state nothing else is out there. What is required in these circumstances is restraint and a level head to find the truth, not headlines and sensationalism.
“There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance.”
― Socrates
Ignorance is a state of being uninformed. Ignorant describes a person in the state of being unaware
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Nando
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Yes i do understand it´s very easy to assume something is a UFO when it´s a dot in the sky but just imagine something being so close that you can easily throw a rock at it.
Even throw it like girls do :)

I would estimate it to be around 15-20m at most. That´s why i got quite upset when the UFO beauru insisted it was a chinese lantern.
As if i was an idiot. a blind idiot.

Btw, please comment on the two videos i posted. They are very very interesting.
"Il Phenomeno" - The one they fear the most!

"2% of the world's population own 50% of the world's wealth."

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Websta
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Those NASA transmissions are mostly misinterpreted, I know that the tumbling object reported by the Apollo mission was just one of the ejected stages of the Saturn 5 rocket (a spacecraft wouldn't tumble anyway). I am also always very sceptical of any "spherical shaped" UFOs reported, especially small crafts with no visible means of propulsion as that doesn't sound like a viable aircraft or spacecraft. The encounter described by the Mexican pilot in your second video sounds pretty farcical TBH. There was another well known UFO encounter in 2004 involving the Mexican Air Force but it is widely believed to have been a meteorological event (ball lightning, ray balls etc).

I don't see how governments could keep actual UFO encounters quiet. Look what happened when CERN "discovered" neutrinos travelling faster than the speed of light and how it leaked to the media before it could be verified. If scientists had hard evidence for the existence of aliens, no legal ramifications could stop a media leak occurring. That logic alone is pretty much enough to convince me that no such evidence exists.

The most compelling UFO sightings occurred in the 1980's and described an "enormous, triangular jet-propelled aircraft that was noticeably quieter than other jets and had a sawtooth-shaped rear edge." That was of course the B2 spirit before the program was made public.

Nando
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comparing CERN to an alien encounter is a bit different. One would be the greatest event in human history, the other just another step in science. I find it hard how you can mis-interpret the words "we have the alien spacecraft under observance" as well.

I think in terms of the shape it´s one of the best shape you can have aerodynamically.
We know for a fact that companies and governments have tried to built saucers but they cancelled the program. (officially)
BMW is one of the companies for example,
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Because our means of propulsion is quite different to what you would expect a more advanced life form have seeing as they would have to get here and i don´t think Jet engines would do the job for that.

Btw, do you mean the Phoenix lights? People said it was probably a B-2 (obviously none of these people actually saw it but came after and told people what it was)

One witness said this, "You could land all our B-2 bombers on that one, that´s how big it was"
"Il Phenomeno" - The one they fear the most!

"2% of the world's population own 50% of the world's wealth."

Nando
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Two more videos that are extremely interesting. These are not your average redneck abduction videos but videos from Militaries, real documented cases that happened.
The issue is what was it, and it´s human made then you have just opened the Pandora´s box because it would prove governments have technology that would revolutionize our way of living.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t027qPGvn-c&feature=plcp[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq5YuWk0DwM[/youtube]

Just the fact that UFO sightings sky-rocketed after we starting blowing nukes is interesting in of itself.

what´s also interesting is that the highest ranking person in the history of mankind to have seen and reported an UFO is actually an American President.

Also as far as keeping a lid on things. As we have seen, some go public but because it´s such an outlandish thing, the general public automatically thinks they are lying or hallucinating.
Quite different then leaking something about CERN.
"Il Phenomeno" - The one they fear the most!

"2% of the world's population own 50% of the world's wealth."

autogyro
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The flying saucer shape is definitely not the best aerodynamic shape for use in an atmosphere.
However it is a sensible shape for some propulsion theories for space travel.

As to believing in UFO's.
Unidentified flying objects are exactly what they say they are, unidentified.
The vast majority eventualy have a logical and not an interstella cause.

Many unidentifieds that remain will be explained in logical terms in the future.
It is impossible to state that the sightings remaining are of spaceships from outer space.

I have seen at least three UFO's, one from the ground and two while flying.
Non of the three have been explained to my satisfaction.
I still remain unconvinced on the flying saucer theory.

In the late 40s early 50s there were lots of strange aircraft types in the air.
These were mainly tests being undertaken on German and Axis experimental types captured at the end of the war.
Some of these developed into the familiar flying wing and stealth types seen today.
It was the beginning of the cold war and non of the nations involved wanted to reveal what was going on.
A large number of UFO sightings have been of experimental aircraft and I think it was this period that started the craze.
Every one in America and his dog seems to have jumped on board.
I suppose it is a quick route into fame and the American Dream.
Having said all that, I still believe that spacecraft from other planets almost certainly exist.
The chances of seeing one are very remote unless the crew wants to be seen.

xxChrisxx
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Nando wrote:I find it hard how you can mis-interpret the words "we have the alien spacecraft under observance" as well.
Apparetly there is an alien, a legal alien in New York.
According to Sting anyway.

Nando
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xxChrisxx wrote:Apparetly there is an alien, a legal alien in New York.
According to Sting anyway.
Thank you for posting, what you just did is a classic example of when something clearly cannot be explained, or has a hint of disrupting your world view, you resort to nonsense in order to feel better about yourself.

Bit like the ostrich shoving it´s head in the sand.
"Il Phenomeno" - The one they fear the most!

"2% of the world's population own 50% of the world's wealth."