Scuderia Toro Rosso has announced that Carlos Sainz will join the team with immediate effect. It means that our driver line-up for the 2015 season is now established as Max Verstappen and Carlo Sainz.
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Alonso hasn't won it with 2 teams. Both titles came with Renault.
Obviously....
But with Dennis stopping Lewis claim about his teammate (and solving the problem internally as teams usually do), and Grosjean avoiding that stupid crash at Spa ´12, he would have win with three different teams
Yes if´s all around, but I can´t stop thinking he deserve at least 4WDC with 3 different teams. I think I´m not alone
Good thing Qualifying doesn´t mean anything if you can´t produce the results.
I´m sure none of us has forgotten a certain individual with 11 poles and 3 wins converted from it this year.
I´m sure he´s over the moon with his pole position trophy.
"If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward, then brother that person is a piece of sh*t"
Perhaps when Peugeot will return back to WEC, he'll have a seat for the 24h of Le Mans. For now I think he should develop himself further to endurance racing. He has pace that's for sure.
SectorOne wrote:Good thing Qualifying doesn´t mean anything if you can´t produce the results.
I´m sure none of us has forgotten a certain individual with 11 poles and 3 wins converted from it this year.
I´m sure he´s over the moon with his pole position trophy.
You know as well as the rest of us that starting as close to the front as possible increases your chances of winning and getting podiums. We only need to look at what Dan Riccardo and Valtteri Bottas did this season, most of the time they out qualified their team mates and that resulted in them being able to fight for higher points finishes and winning their inter-team points battles.
SectorOne wrote:Good thing Qualifying doesn´t mean anything if you can´t produce the results.
I´m sure none of us has forgotten a certain individual with 11 poles and 3 wins converted from it this year.
I´m sure he´s over the moon with his pole position trophy.
You know as well as the rest of us that starting as close to the front as possible increases your chances of winning and getting podiums. We only need to look at what Dan Riccardo and Valtteri Bottas did this season, most of the time they out qualified their team mates and that resulted in them being able to fight for higher points finishes and winning their inter-team points battles.
Good thing Qualifying doesn´t mean anything if you can´t produce the results.
"If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward, then brother that person is a piece of sh*t"
Just to keep banging on about it, maybe Alonso doesn't want Button in Mclaren, it's just the sort of thing he would stipulate ala Schumacher. The drivers press conference where Fred was put on the spot with Buuton having to step in and the statement he made supposedly expressing his desire for Button remain all make me think he doesn't want the competition Button would provide. Considering how well Button stood when he moved over to Hammy's team and how well Button showed against Trulli before he was replaced by Alonso, who can blaim him!
To be honest, the very fact that Alonso has driven against Hamilton who in turn has driven against Button, makes me think that Alonso above all else would not be overly concerned about Button. I know, people like to bring up the Hamilton/Button years under McLaren where Button ended up outscoring him on total points, but looking at raw speed, there really wasn't any contest between the two, ever. I can't possibly imagine Alonso being concerned about either driver. I would rate both Kimi and Button similarly and Alonso didn't have much trouble with that either. I honestly think Alonso is old and mature enough to not be too picky about his team-mates, unless he might be placed with Hamilton inside the same team (due to their history at McLaren). Apart from that, I don't even think he'd be too concerned if he were placed in a car next to Vettel either.
Just my 2 cents...
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Phil wrote:To be honest, the very fact that Alonso has driven against Hamilton who in turn has driven against Button, makes me think that Alonso above all else would not be overly concerned about Button. I know, people like to bring up the Hamilton/Button years under McLaren where Button ended up outscoring him on total points, but looking at raw speed, there really wasn't any contest between the two, ever. I can't possibly imagine Alonso being concerned about either driver. I would rate both Kimi and Button similarly and Alonso didn't have much trouble with that either. I honestly think Alonso is old and mature enough to not be too picky about his team-mates, unless he might be placed with Hamilton inside the same team (due to their history at McLaren). Apart from that, I don't even think he'd be too concerned if he were placed in a car next to Vettel either.
Just my 2 cents...
Yup, I would have thought if anything he'd be wary of being paired with another Mclaren rookie that's grown up in the team...
Everybody knows that Alonso does not want a great driver next to him, too risky for his reputation. He wants a sidekick, somebody that is just starting to gain experience and can't outshine him.
I presume he told you all this during dinner, as you two are such great friends, right?
Nevermind the actual proof that he raced the hell out of Kimi in 2014.
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