2013 Italian GP - Monza

[max_speed]

Frustration from 4 successive years of not winning any major title coming to the surface.

Alonso tried to act completely the opposite during the interviews, but this time damage can't be controlled. I fear someone will get the axe at ferrari, being either alonso, massa, domenicali or somebody else, but the whole team just looks ready to ignite.

lets be straight , if someone has to be axed it has to be domenicali and massa , in last years ferrari's has punched above its weight because of alonso , you cn have second driver as bad as massa and domenicali , as usual demands of calm. if alonso would not have done , what he has been doing since past four years , ferrari would have been in tatters , somewhere close to Force india in terms of performance..

[Redragon]

No. He definitely points out at the team saying YOU are idiots

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1WacjgOnE0

enjoy.

As I said that it is just a bit of the transmission, not all.
still a bit early for me. Don't want to fall on the passion trap

[LionKing]

If I were a top team, I would snatch Hulkenberg as soon as possible before someone else does. He is by far the best of the drivers running in midfield cars...

[Redragon]

If I were a top team, I would snatch Hulkenberg as soon as possible before someone else does. He is by far the best of the drivers running in midfield cars...

Ferrari has signed Raikkonen apparently if rumours are right. So only Lotus space left

[max_speed]

They tried to have massa slipstreaming alonso, like last year. I am absolutely clueless why they persist in that. Last year did show that they loose time with that, given massa was faster when he drove a normal lap.

i think this will come down to race being in monza , once u realize that third is within reach but u want to top the timesheets , u take undue risks and then this what happens, third was in the bag and knowing the fact webber generally does not take off well , it could have been straight fight between vettel and alonso.. but u know ferrari , seriously bunch of stupids. they always optimize their car for race , i dnt knw wht forced them to think about quali, were they sure tha toeing gonna provide benefit of close to .3 seconds.

[sennafan24]

If I were a top team, I would snatch Hulkenberg as soon as possible before someone else does. He is by far the best of the drivers running in midfield cars...

Ferrari has signed Raikkonen apparently if rumours are right. So only Lotus space left

Brundle said he had talked to Kimi's manager and they are waiting for Lotus to given them a offer, if they cannot Ferrari is a option. There are rumors around the paddock that Kimi has signed with Ferrari though, as stated.

On the basis of today it would be criminal if Hulky was not given a decent drive next year.

[Just_a_fan]

Brainfart for Hamilton. You don't see Vettel or Alonso do these mistakes in a critical stage - not at least in bone dry conditions.

At least he was man enough to blame himself for it. No excuses given, just an honest "I drove badly" (or words to that effect).

[maranello55]

Webber consistent KERS problem. sigh.

this is sickening.

[turbof1]

They tried to have massa slipstreaming alonso, like last year. I am absolutely clueless why they persist in that. Last year did show that they loose time with that, given massa was faster when he drove a normal lap.

i think this will come down to race being in monza , once u realize that third is within reach but u want to top the timesheets , u take undue risks and then this what happens, third was in the bag and knowing the fact webber generally does not take off well , it could have been straight fight between vettel and alonso.. but u know ferrari , seriously bunch of stupids. they always optimize their car for race , i dnt knw wht forced them to think about quali, were they sure tha toeing gonna provide benefit of close to .3 seconds.

If I am correct, they were practicing it yesterday. This looks like something they intended from the beginning.

Somebody within the team must be really charismatic to convince the whole team to do this at Monza, but not at Montreal or Spa. 2 years in a row. Massa in the press conference last year was all like: yeah great position, managed to improve 3 tenths without the tow.

[theformula]

Sutil's been given a three place grid drop, the guy's a liability on and off the track. His grudge against Hamilton is bloody ridiculous seeing as he's the one who glassed a guy on the head.

[ChrisF1]

So, pardon me if the memory is a bit hazy, but in 2006 at Monza there was a penalty for Alonso "impeding Massa"

I'm pretty sure they were about the same distance apart as the Ferrari's were today in the first attempt of Q3. The stewards said there was enough turbulent air to disrupt Massa's lap.

Have Ferrari not learned from the very thing they appealed against?

[oT v1]

Hoping for rain now but if not - Vet/Alo/Web podium I think, massa could be close to picking off webber though

[CHT]

No. He definitely points out at the team saying YOU are idiots

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1WacjgOnE0

enjoy.

Anyone have the english translation of the message?

[JimClarkFan]

No. He definitely points out at the team saying YOU are idiots

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1WacjgOnE0

enjoy.

If true, expect lots of drama in the next week.
The timing of this, at Monza, makes it particularly damning.

[f1universe]

Interesting race tomorrow, Alonso charging like a best, Massa fighting for his life, Kimi and Hamilton coming from behind, Hulk trying the best he can to keep the car in the top 10. Will Webber have a good start?.