2016 United States Grand Prix - COTA, 21-23 October

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Juzh wrote:While we wait for the race:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQWZdWf0BOo
That´s an interesting comparison.

Top speed is way higher this season (325 vs 308 more or less) and also cornering speed is higher in first sector, but the final laptime is pretty similar. I know in 2012 Vettel was using mediums while Lewis used supersofts so the comparison is not that straight forward tough

I guess power must be higher on 2012... Did they use DRS all around the track in 2012?

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simieski wrote:
Fifty wrote:Any details come out on Sainz back to back tire punctures?
I thought I heard on Sky that it was caused by a new brake duct chafing on the wheel rim, which in turn got very hot which led to the tyre failing.
Yes, this was mentioned on Ted's Notebook.

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Andres125sx wrote:
Juzh wrote:While we wait for the race:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQWZdWf0BOo
That´s an interesting comparison.

Top speed is way higher this season (325 vs 308 more or less) and also cornering speed is higher in first sector, but the final laptime is pretty similar. I know in 2012 Vettel was using mediums while Lewis used supersofts so the comparison is not that straight forward tough

I guess power must be higher on 2012... Did they use DRS all around the track in 2012?
More like 333 vs 308.
2016 merc has like 200 more hp (or even more) than RB8 and drs is not enough to keep up with the merc at all. Hamilton is 20 kmh up to vettel after like 2s of full throttle at the start line.

As for the drs usage. You can clearly see he's opening drs everywhere he can.

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Mercedes clearly turned the wick back up for their pole laps yesterday so I thought Ricc did a great job to get within .5 of HAM and for Max to get within .5 of ROS.

Over the race pace, the good Red Bull tyre resillience from practice could really come into play, but they need to hold off the Ferraris at the start. It would be ideal to jump one of the Mercs but sounds like Merc have been working hard on the clutch.

Will be interesting if they could get Dan in some space to undercut when he stops early to rid the supersofts but we will have to see.

Will Rosberg get twitchy in turn 1?! Pressure is on now- the Championship is in front of him...who knows!

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Mansell89 wrote: Will be interesting if they could get Dan in some space to undercut when he stops early to rid the supersofts but we will have to see.
Dan has to go long enough to avoid traffic. So I do not expect him to stop very early and when it is only early, the Mercs will pit right after him. There is little to no chance to go S-M as it would exceed the max limits by Pirelli. So it will be an easy 2-Stop, an early first stop will not hurt.
Mansell89 wrote: Will Rosberg get twitchy in turn 1?! Pressure is on now- the Championship is in front of him...who knows!
Looking at the two Porsche Supercup races, there is nothing more important than getting the inside into turn 1. It will be a drag race to the first corner, the distance from P2 to the apex is not much longer than from P1 as P1 needs to cross the track. I can picture a hard fight for the apex with a front wing part flying. Whoever is on the inside will do a Ham and, thus, will be ahead.
Don`t russel the hamster!

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I think it depends mostly on how Lewis' start will go. If it's flawless and better than nico, then I think Lewis will sail away and the game is on for Nico vs the RedBulls.
Also depends on how good Nico's start is and how good RIC and VES' starts are. If RIC gets away well, then he'll definately try to overtake Nico in the first corner,
something that is the last thing Nico is looking forward to, as it would compromise his race and have a hungry Verstappen behind him, all leaving him in a mix of cars
he really doesnt want to find himself in. Mercedes will cover that off fairly fast by boxing him early and on another strategy which will see him aim for P2 which is
good enough for him, but still find him possibly compromised during the latter stages of the race.

RedBull is stronger than i thought this weekend. Lewis seems a lot better shaped up so it's looking to be a fairly interesting race, though i have a feeling that after a
lap of 5 to 10, it'll be a borefest untill the last laps.
"Explain the ending to F1 in football terms"
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while also sending off 4 Hamilton players to make it more interesting"

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Manoah2u wrote:I think it depends mostly on how Lewis' start will go. If it's flawless and better than nico, then I think Lewis will sail away and the game is on for Nico vs the RedBulls.
True...but I have my doubts, that the Bulls are fast enough.
Manoah2u wrote: Also depends on how good Nico's start is and how good RIC and VES' starts are. If RIC gets away well, then he'll definately try to overtake Nico in the first corner,
Nico is on the inside. There is not much chance for P3 to attack P2 if P2 is not compromised by a slow P1 so that P3 can take the outside line. I do not think this will happen.
Manoah2u wrote: Lewis seems a lot better shaped up so it's looking to be a fairly interesting race, though i have a feeling that after a
lap of 5 to 10, it'll be a borefest untill the last laps.
Why do you think Lewis is in good shape? In Q he had one good (perfect) lap. This lap was the only difference to Ros. I rather expect a close formation flight to a 1/2.
Don`t russel the hamster!

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Is the right hand side of the grid (Pole,3rd,5th,7th etc) still favoured like it was those years ago when Ferrari opened up Massas gearbox to get Alonso up a place and onto the odd number side of the grid for a better start?

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Dont forget to join us in Chat
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Just out of curiosity, why is the above live chat better than discussions here on the forum?

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a little quicker and more casual I guess? You are welcome to post in the thread as well

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Thanks. I already said hello on there, though its all very unfamiliar to me thus far.

I have to say though, visually the forum here looks better imo

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the chat tends to be more a chat as the race goes on where the forum in theory is more in depth posts.

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Gracias. I think i will stick to this place

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Does someone know why Ferrari did not pit Kimi during the VSC??????