2020 Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya, August 14 - 16

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It’s going to be fascinating.

The car with potentially better tire wear starting behind the two Mercedes.

From RedBulls POV, how do you beat the cars in front on a track where overtaking is difficult?
Answer: do something they cant. Go for a one stop. Of course Mercedes will try to cover that off by doing the same, but if Max can be close, they could do an undercut and at least get by one of the Mercs. If Mercedes has more wear relative to the RedBull, they may not be able to break free.

What works in Mercedes favor is that they have two cars potentially ahead at the start. One could protect the other. The problem; they may not do that, because both their drivers are in the WDC race.
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Enjoyed listening to Rosberg commentating with Crofty on Sky during FP3. lots of fresh insight

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What a weird incident. See Ocon checking his left mirror, not noticing that Magnussen backed off.

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Unc1eM0nty wrote:
15 Aug 2020, 12:59
Enjoyed listening to Rosberg commentating with Crofty on Sky during FP3. lots of fresh insight
It’s been incredible! Definitely has made practices soooo much more interesting than listening to di resta, Davidson and Croft bicker over complete BS.

So many heaps of cool insights - differences in set up between quali and the race, what ‘pulling’ in the brakes means, etc. just so good! And I disliked him on the track... feel bad now. Would take him over the others in the commentary box any day

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Wonder if Magnussen slowed down because he felt that Ocon impeded him

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Yea gotta agree. I couldn't stand Ros and still find him a bit grating, but the qualify of commentary these last few sessions had been vastly improved. DiResta is just word soup most of the time.

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I think it was just a misunderstanding. Magnussen left the racing line to let Ocon pass but Ocon backed off as well and moved off the racing line. Checking his mirrors for upcoming traffic, noticing too late that Magnussen slowed down.

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Phil wrote:
15 Aug 2020, 12:21
It’s going to be fascinating.

The car with potentially better tire wear starting behind the two Mercedes.

From RedBulls POV, how do you beat the cars in front on a track where overtaking is difficult?
Answer: do something they cant. Go for a one stop. Of course Mercedes will try to cover that off by doing the same, but if Max can be close, they could do an undercut and at least get by one of the Mercs. If Mercedes has more wear relative to the RedBull, they may not be able to break free.

What works in Mercedes favor is that they have two cars potentially ahead at the start. One could protect the other. The problem; they may not do that, because both their drivers are in the WDC race.
I find this amusing. That Red Bull has shown better tyre life than Mercedes, for all of one race! One race with anomalous variables. For the whole of last season, it was Mercedes that has been the better race car with greater tyre life. It was the same for the first 4 races too of this season. One should wait for a few more races before getting to the conclusion that, Red Bull is the car with better tyre wear.

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RZS10 wrote:
15 Aug 2020, 13:05
Wonder if Magnussen slowed down because he felt that Ocon impeded him
Looked to me that Magnussen moved off the racing line to get out of the way exactly at the same time as Ocon had moved to pass him on the right whilst checking for a fast moving care behind.

We then had the insane situation about 5 mins earlier where we had about 6 cars all at different approaching speeds on 1 chicane. This needs fixing as were going to have a big crash eventually due to the idiotically slow speeds on recharge laps.
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Is it surprising that Magnussen is involved yet another accident? People like him, Kvyat and Grosjean don't deserve to be on the grid. How long would it take for Haas to realize that, they have 2 stupid drivers.

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How do you guys feel about minimum lap speeds that they were talking about? Those 6 cars barely rolling in that one chicane is an accident waiting to happen.

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GPR-A wrote:
15 Aug 2020, 13:12
Is it surprising that Magnussen is involved yet another accident? People like him, Kvyat and Grosjean don't deserve to be on the grid. How long would it take for Haas to realize that, they have 2 stupid drivers.
They are still better drivers than Latifi or Giovinazzi. Same thing can be said from Ocon. Not the first time he crashed into another car. Incompetent, stubborn or lack of concentration. No need to crash, both driver could have avoided it.

What an empty grid this would yield.
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Bsowles wrote:
15 Aug 2020, 13:18
How do you guys feel about minimum lap speeds that they were talking about? Those 6 cars barely rolling in that one chicane is an accident waiting to happen.
I think it’s got to happen.

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Restomaniac wrote:
15 Aug 2020, 13:12
RZS10 wrote:
15 Aug 2020, 13:05
Wonder if Magnussen slowed down because he felt that Ocon impeded him
Looked to me that Magnussen moved off the racing line to get out of the way exactly at the same time as Ocon had moved to pass him on the right whilst checking for a fast moving care behind.

We then had the insane situation about 5 mins earlier where we had about 6 cars all at different approaching speeds on 1 chicane. This needs fixing as were going to have a big crash eventually due to the idiotically slow speeds on recharge laps.
Ironically the ban on Q modes would go some way towards fixing a part of this (recharge)

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Restomaniac wrote:
15 Aug 2020, 13:21
Bsowles wrote:
15 Aug 2020, 13:18
How do you guys feel about minimum lap speeds that they were talking about? Those 6 cars barely rolling in that one chicane is an accident waiting to happen.
I think it’s got to happen.
That still can lead to a cluster of cars. Only way to fix it is allowing a single car on track at a time. This is also the most unfair option wrt track evolution.
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