2012 British GP - Silverstone Circuit

[ankitshah]

Any idea about the tire situation?

Alonso: No running in FP1 practise start in FP2(1 wet) no fast running mostly. Slicks in FP3(? didnt watch that session). 1 inter Q1. 1 or 2 wets in Q2. 1 inter in entire Q3. that must leave him with atleast 1 new inter and 1 full wet

Whitmarsh stated that McLaren dont have any new tires. Might be similar for RBR and merc as all of them ran on friday

Also what is the situation for the rest of the teams? Might be similar to McLarens for RBR and Merc as all of them ran on friday except Ferrari. Your thoughts?

[zyphro]

Schumachers effort in the wets - 1 second quicker than hamilton.
Schumi on inters - had 1 lap - 1 lap to get the time in. 1 outlap, 1 hotlap. And he goes 3rd.

Everyone else had 4-5laps worth of experience on the inters. schumi does it in 1.

for me, he has proven this year that hes still got the raw skill.

He was already faster in S2 and S3 but probably too conservative at S1. Which is understandable for the first hot lap.....

ALO 33.7 45.7 32.1
WEB 33.6 45.6 32.4
SCH 34.5 45.6 31.8

Cold tyres cost him for sure.

[zyphro]

Schumachers effort in the wets - 1 second quicker than hamilton.
Schumi on inters - had 1 lap - 1 lap to get the time in. 1 outlap, 1 hotlap. And he goes 3rd.

Everyone else had 4-5laps worth of experience on the inters. schumi does it in 1.

for me, he has proven this year that hes still got the raw skill.

=D>

He had a visor with no anti-fog in Q2 too!

Beast.

[jz11]

Alonso seems to be coming from behind too often. Nearly knocked out in Q2 to pole.

Was amazing last 3 mins of Q3 with the pole changing with every attempt. Seeing the replays of his lap now. Seems he was almost entirely driving away from the dry racing line where the drying line was not appearing. Was missing the apexes quite often and turns out those were the best lines to take

if the track is wet enough, then the rubbered in part of the track is much more slippery than the rest of the tarmac, that is the reason to drive off the racing line, even when making turns, its faster to drive on the outside of the racing line

[Guisson]

Nice lap from Fernando and nice to see Schumi Performing well again !
Might be interesting the start tomorrow wheter under the SC or Not
Oh and Yes explosive 4th row with Maldonado and Hamilton hope they don't do anything stupid :p

[fiohaa]

Nice lap from Fernando and nice to see Schumi Performing well again !
Might be interesting the start tomorrow wheter under the SC or Not
Oh and Yes explosive 4th row with Maldonado and Hamilton hope they don't do anything stupid :p

it will definitely be under the safety car if conditions are the same as q3.
gp2 race started under safety car, it was pathetic.

it used to be the case that acquaplaning was the signal to stop the session or go to safety car, and now they do it based on driver complaints - notice how you never hear the old guard complaining on the radio, its always the new kids.

its easy to see why tho, they use these measures to nullify even the slightest risk of accident, to keep sponsors cars happy.

[zyphro]

Alonso seems to be coming from behind too often. Nearly knocked out in Q2 to pole.

Was amazing last 3 mins of Q3 with the pole changing with every attempt. Seeing the replays of his lap now. Seems he was almost entirely driving away from the dry racing line where the drying line was not appearing. Was missing the apexes quite often and turns out those were the best lines to take

if the track is wet enough, then the rubbered in part of the track is much more slippery than the rest of the tarmac, that is the reason to drive off the racing line, even when making turns, its faster to drive on the outside of the racing line

Yeah, Schumacher did this a lot in Canada 2011.

[siskue2005]

Alonso seems to be coming from behind too often. Nearly knocked out in Q2 to pole.

Was amazing last 3 mins of Q3 with the pole changing with every attempt. Seeing the replays of his lap now. Seems he was almost entirely driving away from the dry racing line where the drying line was not appearing. Was missing the apexes quite often and turns out those were the best lines to take

if the track is wet enough, then the rubbered in part of the track is much more slippery than the rest of the tarmac, that is the reason to drive off the racing line, even when making turns, its faster to drive on the outside of the racing line

Its a very basic skill
even kart drivers do it

[ankitshah]

Alonso seems to be coming from behind too often. Nearly knocked out in Q2 to pole.

Was amazing last 3 mins of Q3 with the pole changing with every attempt. Seeing the replays of his lap now. Seems he was almost entirely driving away from the dry racing line where the drying line was not appearing. Was missing the apexes quite often and turns out those were the best lines to take

if the track is wet enough, then the rubbered in part of the track is much more slippery than the rest of the tarmac, that is the reason to drive off the racing line, even when making turns, its faster to drive on the outside of the racing line

That is certainly one possibility.

The other thought I had was that even on a green wet track a wider line with a higher speed might be overall faster than a tighter line with lower speed.

If thats the case, it would mean that he would have had to consciously "update" his lines every lap. Would be interesting if we could get the onboard feed for his laps throughout Q3 to see how he evolved his lap.

The thing that makes me believe this theory is that throughout the pole lap he hardly had to make any major corrections to counter oversteer except at the last corner

[marcush.]

Schumacher stating :I left a margin as i definetely did not want to make a mistake...boy oh boy ...anyone with rain dance
expertise out there in Silverstone?

[radosav]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecZMF5fH ... page#t=15s[/youtube]

[zyphro]

Schumacher stating :I left a margin as i definetely did not want to make a mistake...boy oh boy ...anyone with rain dance
expertise out there in Silverstone?

There's a very high chance of rain I believe.

[Slife]

If you look at Alonso's lap on the last or second last corner he shifts up a gear to avoid sliding. Did any other driver's do this?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xOH6ahaX5Q[/youtube]

It is also around 1:43 to 1:49.

[Shrieker]

I don't think McLaren will have a lot of problems tomorrow if they have to race on inters. IIRC, Lewis went out on full wets for Q3 but came back after his out lap to switch for inters. That's one lap less to heat the tyres compared to ones who went out on inters. Lewis was improving all the time (like everyone else, i know) but one more lap could really have given him the much needed heat. Wİll be interesting to see tomorrow. On a side note, Lewis had a BIG sideways moment on the last corner(I honestly tought he spun) that might've cost him over half a second. That could've been 5th easily.

I have a question about this. If Mclaren can't heat up the inters as quick as others, if the track becomes half dry at some point in the race does that give them an advantage in terms of overheating and degradation ?

[beelsebob]

I don't think McLaren will have a lot of problems tomorrow if they have to race on inters. IIRC, Lewis went out on full wets for Q3 but came back after his out lap to switch for inters. That's one lap less to heat the tyres compared to ones who went out on inters. Lewis was improving all the time (like everyone else, i know) but one more lap could really have given him the much needed heat. Wİll be interesting to see tomorrow. On a side note, Lewis had a BIG sideways moment on the last corner(I honestly tought he spun) that might've cost him over half a second. That could've been 5th easily.

I have a question about this. If Mclaren can't heat up the inters as quick as others, if the track becomes half dry at some point in the race does that give them an advantage in terms of overheating and degradation ?

I suspect they'll struggle hard on them. They struggled in Q1 on inters too, not only that, but button's were entirely gone half way through Q1, I'd bet that Hamilton's were looking disasterous after Q1 and Q3 too.