Williams FW34 Renault

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boyracer94
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tjaeger wrote:Any idea who their lead aero guy is?
Head of Aerodynamics is Jason Somerville.

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@marck: like hores wrote, you use cfd and wt to put in the aero response surface of the whole car (in this case with a new wing) in the vehicle dynamics software of the simulator.

The output fo cfd and wt (aero numbers vs rideheight, yaw etc) is the input for the simulator. Simulator with driver gives the ultimate output - laptime.
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horse wrote:
shelly wrote:Simulator and cfd simulation are two completely different softwares, with very different hardware.
Precisely, the simulator is not solving any CFD on the fly. It is taking the aggregated data predicted by the CFD and validated in the wind tunnel and applying that to the dynamic model of the car.

I would doubt that something like a front wing could be done in isolation as it has a strong impact downstream. I guess they would have to get data for the entire car and provide it to the simulator.
Ringo wrote:Williams need a new front wing, this sliced fruit looking wing can't cut it.
I was really surprised to see the thing on the car. Its development came from issues with the Cosworth engine and diffuser blowing, two problems they don't have any more.

Wish I coudl have seen that show on TV. I agree with horse here. Williams seem to be not developing the same direction than others, means the FW is the starting point for air coming into play, as such one would think it plays a major role in the entire aero concept of the car.
If the follow the high nose concept, light weight gear box, tight backend, coke bottle shape, one would expect they get to similar to close designs than RB, Merc, Renault and others, but yet their FW appears to be completely different...I might be wrong, just thinking.
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n smikle wrote:You would have thunk with the low gearbox they would have gobs of low speed grip...
How come? What's the correlation?

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Lower center of gravity and more wing area exposed. Just a deduction.
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FW17
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Missed this the other day. The rack they were testing yesterday could actually move up and down when on track :mrgreen:

Williams is too good an engineering company to be messing around the midfield, hope thy get back to the front pack as soon as possible

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WilliamsF1 wrote:Missed this the other day. The rack they were testing yesterday could actually move up and down when on track :mrgreen:

Williams is too good an engineering company to be messing around the midfield, hope thy get back to the front pack as soon as possible
That is quite cool :mrgreen:
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From this pic and the VJM05, I find it intriguing that they're mapping pressures on the outside the wheels. I would've thought flow between the wheels and onto the sidepod was more intresting.

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MIKEY_!
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They will be checking the wake out there as it has drag implications.

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roadie
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Well Williams are testing a new FW today. Credit to Francesc for this pic, which is easy to compare to those above.

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mith
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Looks somehow similar to W03 wing.

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boyracer94
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Blackout wrote:Old
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The end of the mainplane looks interesting

Seamus
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5 different things i can see