Japanese GP 2010 - Suzuka

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Guessdot wrote:Mclaren is like shooting their own leg.. I can't believe there is so much problem with lewis's car while there is none on button's.. It's obvious that lewis is quicker then button and by letting them race fair and having equal treatment.. Erm....
Why back LH to only blew it in the last race? If they back Button, he will at least brightn it home :lol:
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Guessdot wrote:Mclaren is like shooting their own leg.. I can't believe there is so much problem with lewis's car while there is none on button's.. It's obvious that lewis is quicker then button and by letting them race fair and having equal treatment.. Erm....
I think Hamilton pushes the car too hard. That's why stuff breaks. Button takes it a little easier. Or so it seems to me anyway.

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LH - Wow could it get any worse? Lady luck hates him at this point. Hit off the road by MW in both Melbourne and Singapore, rear tire blows out on the closing stages of Cat gp, changes gearbox due to oil pressure and takes a 5 grid penalty and then that very same gearbox gives out and will cost him another 5 positions next race. That rule really sucks as now LH is going to suffer TWO penalties for something that is for the most part completely out of his control.

Vettel - Man he needed this one and I am happy he got it. At least the WDC is pretty close and Marks two rivals are in solid or equal machinery.

Mark - Drove well, but dam this guy is way too lucky with Bob having that wheel go off after passing Mark.

Kobayashi - Drive of the race, and it was on the perfect track! Some killer moves into that hairpin. Additionally he made the best of his crappy pit strategy.

JA - Man give that boy a penalty. Kob made him look stupid so JA comes back and tries to hit him twice? Surely penalties have been handed out for less before...

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Terrible3 wrote:...

JA - Man give that boy a penalty. Kob made him look stupid so JA comes back and tries to hit him twice? Surely penalties have been handed out for less before...
I got the impression that Alguersuari appeared to go wide and into Kobayashi but in reality did that to continue the racing line which was to the right side of the track after a left hander. Although in all honesty I missed the events leading up that 'scene'.
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zeph wrote:
I think Hamilton pushes the car too hard. That's why stuff breaks. Button takes it a little easier. Or so it seems to me anyway.

Since when was the objective in racing to drive slower? Lewis knew he had to push and push he did. Had he said in his head, "well I need to back off when I push since I am simply too fast for the car" he would not be in F1.

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zeph wrote:I disagree.

Kobayashi is fun to watch and he certainly spices things up a little, but it seems to me that he needs that bravado to make up for lack of pace.
Lack of pace? Apologies Zeph am I missing somthing here?
He overtook 4 cars in 6 laps, that is bravado and pace in my book.
Red Bull should be looking at this guy if Webber decides to call it quits and move on.
More could have been done.
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@ JET:

Maybe I should have worded it more carefully...

He's fast, but a little too rough. I liked him better last year.

edit:
I gues what I meant to say is that he is lucky that he did not take himself out today. But it was his home race and that may have been a factor, too.
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Terrible3 wrote: Since when was the objective in racing to drive slower? Lewis knew he had to push and push he did. Had he said in his head, "well I need to back off when I push since I am simply too fast for the car" he would not be in F1.
I think the objective is to win, or at least bring the car home and score as many points as possible. Granted, he did that today.

I'm not saying he should slow down. I'm saying that it looks to me that his driving style pushes the equipment to the limit (and frequently beyond, obviously).

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zeph wrote:@ JET:

Maybe I should have worded it more carefully...

He's fast, but a little too rough. I liked him better last year.
I disagree. He got his car to the end and pulled off superb overtakes. He caught drivers napping because they are plodding round not expecting anyone to overtake because 'you cant overtake in f1' So what if he had a little bump, the guy has guts and skill. Remember he is still early in his career.

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oh dear me..first time EVER post race interview live on RTL MS bashing his team ....we see a new side of Schumacher now:
He claimed his F-duct did not work unexplainably in Q,moreover it reduced downforce in the corners and added on th straights...and he stated he was given no reason for it not operting properly in Q only to work perfect in FPs and Race.
He also dished out criticism for this happenining again and again on his car ...and also other malfunctions concentrating on his car only making him look slower than he really is...uuups ...he stopped short of accusing the team creating those problems...

very interesting thought there....could it be Merc was holding him back on purpose after realising they cannot win with that thing???
also why was rosberg defending as violent as he did when Schu was clearly the best part of a second quicker and there was a true chance to beat Hamilton..strange strange..

Really in all these years Schumacher never ever put a single word against his team ,even when Bennetton cheated or Ferrari failed to build a car capable of surviving the formation lap...

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marcush. wrote: Really in all these years Schumacher never ever put a single word against his team ,even when Bennetton cheated or Ferrari failed to build a car capable of surviving the formation lap...
Probably because in all these years he has never been as frustrated.

I have to say that he impressed me today, though.

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Marcush

By the time Schumacher and Rosberg where together, Hamilton was sitting in 4th with no problems. It was only with 10 laps to go that Hamilton suffered his reliabiltiy problem.

Saying that I do think Mercedes should have let Schumacher through as he was clearly faster today. But if the situation was reversed I dont think Schumacher would yield either.
More could have been done.
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Oh and I think Schumacher had a few things to say in Canada in 1996 when his prop shaft was spat out the back of his car.... :lol:
More could have been done.
David Purley

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point is :
He said the car was to his liking first time this year in race conditions through the whole race.
Even if Hamilton was not already in trouble ..everyone knows things can happen in races...so you would be foolish to lay back and wait for the flag instead of pushing to create pressure or be ready to take advantage of events happening in front of you.
It could of course have been a SC in this Rosberg incident quite as well and then he would have been in position to challenge Hamilton the ifs and whens you never can account for but you have to be prepared .Merc was ,typically stubborn on their .let them race strategy ..instead of stating you are allowed to race your teammate but as soon as it slows down both it is useless .Rosberg was not racing he was defending .

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marcush. wrote:Merc was typically stubborn on their .let them race strategy ..instead of stating you are allowed to race your teammate but as soon as it slows down both it is useless .Rosberg was not racing he was defending .
So then Marcush, say Mercedes did let Schumacher through. People would start criticising Mercedes for favouring the "old man".
Dammed if do dammed if you dont.

What they did do was show there is no bias to any driver within the team...the way it should be.
If Rosberg wanted to let Schumacher through, for the sake of the team, then he is capable of doing so of his own accord.

He evidently chose not to.
More could have been done.
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