2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

[GhostF1]

Watching Galsy's replay before the crash he seemed to be flying on the big curved straight with the engine 14 mode he had and damn he was!
https://i.imgur.com/aaLsu3S.png

12 and half thousand rpm. What is the max allowed rpm? If that is the limit they need to adjust gear ratios

The limit is 15k but no-one goes beyond 12k usually. This was the top speed just before he braked for the corner.

Legal limit is 15,000, but all teams seem to have a limiter just under 13,000. I've seen the Honda spike to 12,900 while smacking the limiter at Monaco before last corner, but I'm also pretty sure the 12,900 limiter in 8th gear is either raised or removed completely to stop top speed barrier.

[Pyrone89]

Max is just 61 points short from Hamilton....Just imagine if we have greatest comeback in history of F1 this year.....

That's how Hamilton got his reputation. Coming from behind in certain championships in the past.

Like which one?
I can only think of 2008 beimg tight but that was Ferrari unreliability in Hungary and in the Singapore mess up. Else Massa would have been chsmpion easy. 2007 he threw it away under pressure but that can be forgiven as he was a rookie, then you have 2016 were he was better than Rosberg but he was now on the other end of the reliability (as Massa was in 2008). 2018 was messed up by Ferrari (see a pattern). In all the other years he was well clear.

[Datco]

12 and half thousand rpm. What is the max allowed rpm? If that is the limit they need to adjust gear ratios

The limit is 15k but no-one goes beyond 12k usually. This was the top speed just before he braked for the corner.

Legal limit is 15,000, but all teams seem to have a limiter just under 13,000. I've seen the Honda spike to 12,900 while smacking the limiter at Monaco before last corner, but I'm also pretty sure the 12,900 limiter in 8th gear is either raised or removed completely to stop top speed barrier.

Thanks. So if F1 wants more noise they should just give PU manufactures what they need to achieve 15k rpm, higher fuel rates etc. Maybe that is why they got the 12900 limiter, remember Gasly was penalized in Baku for exceeding fuel flow.

[JonoNic]

Max is just 61 points short from Hamilton....Just imagine if we have greatest comeback in history of F1 this year.....

That's how Hamilton got his reputation. Coming from behind in certain championships in the past.

Like which one?
I can only think of 2008 beimg tight but that was Ferrari unreliability in Hungary and in the Singapore mess up. Else Massa would have been chsmpion easy. 2007 he threw it away under pressure but that can be forgiven as he was a rookie, then you have 2016 were he was better than Rosberg but he was now on the other end of the reliability (as Massa was in 2008). 2018 was messed up by Ferrari (see a pattern). In all the other years he was well clear.

Reputation - the beliefs or opinions that are generally held about someone or something. You can have an opinion too. Basically he came from behind in a few championships.

[godlameroso]

Max is just 61 points short from Hamilton....Just imagine if we have greatest comeback in history of F1 this year.....

MAX is the best driver on the grid
RB is the best racing team ( spirit, strategy, pit stops)
RB is the best to develop the car through the year

BUT we already know that title is for Mercedes and Hamilton since several month ... but at least we may have see the end of every race won by Mercedes, maybe Max can challenge from time to time

Spa and Monza are good for Ferrari, Honda still has something up their sleeve. I honestly think this was the turning point of the season, and we will see what kind of champion Hamilton is. Because he will be fighting to hang on to those 62 points.

[Pyrone89]

That's how Hamilton got his reputation. Coming from behind in certain championships in the past.

Like which one?
I can only think of 2008 beimg tight but that was Ferrari unreliability in Hungary and in the Singapore mess up. Else Massa would have been chsmpion easy. 2007 he threw it away under pressure but that can be forgiven as he was a rookie, then you have 2016 were he was better than Rosberg but he was now on the other end of the reliability (as Massa was in 2008). 2018 was messed up by Ferrari (see a pattern). In all the other years he was well clear.

Reputation - the beliefs or opinions that are generally held about someone or something. You can have an opinion too. Basically he came from behind in a few championships.

So I asked, which ones.

[GhostF1]

The limit is 15k but no-one goes beyond 12k usually. This was the top speed just before he braked for the corner.

Legal limit is 15,000, but all teams seem to have a limiter just under 13,000. I've seen the Honda spike to 12,900 while smacking the limiter at Monaco before last corner, but I'm also pretty sure the 12,900 limiter in 8th gear is either raised or removed completely to stop top speed barrier.

Thanks. So if F1 wants more noise they should just give PU manufactures what they need to achieve 15k rpm, higher fuel rates etc. Maybe that is why they got the 12900 limiter, remember Gasly was penalized in Baku for exceeding fuel flow.

I believe that's what is being proposed for the next engine rules. Largely the same layout but with an increased rev limit of 18,000rpm and a more powerful MGU-K.
Right up to 2018, Merc used to have peak shift RPM of around 11,400rpm (currently what Honda has as peak shift RPM), however this year, Merc has its peak shift point at 12,000rpm. So they actually rev their engine out a fair bit more than everyone else over a weekend. So they are definitely doing something different combustion wise this year.

[Juzh]

Legal limit is 15,000, but all teams seem to have a limiter just under 13,000. I've seen the Honda spike to 12,900 while smacking the limiter at Monaco before last corner, but I'm also pretty sure the 12,900 limiter in 8th gear is either raised or removed completely to stop top speed barrier.

Thanks. So if F1 wants more noise they should just give PU manufactures what they need to achieve 15k rpm, higher fuel rates etc. Maybe that is why they got the 12900 limiter, remember Gasly was penalized in Baku for exceeding fuel flow.

I believe that's what is being proposed for the next engine rules. Largely the same layout but with an increased rev limit of 18,000rpm and a more powerful MGU-K.
Right up to 2018, Merc used to have peak shift RPM of around 11,400rpm (currently what Honda has as peak shift RPM), however this year, Merc has its peak shift point at 12,000rpm. So they actually rev their engine out a fair bit more than everyone else over a weekend. So they are definitely doing something different combustion wise this year.

Merc has a hard limit at 13.5k rpm, which is enough for around 390 kmh I think, so more than any car will ever reach. At least that's the highest I've ever seen, and I seen some onboards over the years.

Perez at 370 kmh @ 13.000k rpm (this is from 2016):

[JordanMugen]

Whatever they have done to the chassis (I mean, there haven't been very significant obvious / visual type of changes)

The small change to the front wing endplate shape (the small cutout at the top and rear edge that is allowed) was apparently all that was required to improve outwash management and therefore improve rear end stability. Particularly seems to have helped Gasly now that he received the same package in Britain, that Verstappen did in Austria.

They also increased the size of the duct for blowing throw the front wheel rim too, together with new wheel rims themselves to work with this change.

[JordanMugen]

Not the qualifying thing, little things like the turbo lag, or the drivability out of the grid on the start of the race, where both Max and Pierre just didnt go anywhere with all that wheelspin

No I do not agree. The start was poor, but not because of a Honda or a turbo lag or poor handling. See the start, the entire right part of the field started badly, it is obvious that the odd part of the field had much more grip.

For example, later on in the race Gasly went off and lost about five places on one corner. Gasly's drive was not a good one by any measure. I think RBR may as well replace Gasly with Kvyat, as I think Kvyat would be just as fast as Gasly in qualifying but more consistent in the races. Even compared to Ricciardo, Kvyat's record is not that bad by any means.

[Pyrone89]

Marko just comfirmed Gasly finishes the season. Hard to think this is the same person whomditched Kvyat, Buemi, Vergen and Alguesari after much less.

[restless]

Maybe he learned the lesson?

[Jambier]

There is no good solution to replace him.

They can switch with ALB, but it is better to let him progress in Toro Rosso.
Or they can switch with KVY... But they already know him, and judging GAS on the entire season is more interesting I think.

The only downside is that GAS is costing the second place for constructor this year
So at the end of the year he have to be close to Max, and reliable if he wants to continue in F1

[Capharol]

Maybe he learned the lesson?

no there are no beter altenatives available at the moment (unfortunatly) .... that's the problem, and i guess RB is expecting nothing anymore from Gasly .... this way he can only suprise them

[Datco]

There is no good solution to replace him.

They can switch with ALB, but it is better to let him progress in Toro Rosso.
Or they can switch with KVY... But they already know him, and judging GAS on the entire season is more interesting I think.

The only downside is that GAS is costing the second place for constructor this year
So at the end of the year he have to be close to Max, and reliable if he wants to continue in F1

That would be very costly training fees.
But I appreciate their commitment to their drivers. Redbull has done great things for F1.