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GP up on the podium is nice to see

[chrisc90]

Since Danny is technically on loan to AT....can he be swapped with Perez so Perez goes on loan and Danny gets Perez seat?

Perez isnt up to scratch, its clear he and RB ae fading away from each other.

[AR3-GP]

One thing I had forgotten is that SC fest in the sprint neutralized any ERS advantage RB may have. You can recharge without penalty during the safety cars.

Tbh I don't think there is an ERS advantage anymore. Seems Merc and Ferrari have advanced in that regard over the last 6 months

The straight are shorter the just a series of corners.the competition is cripping in i guess is time to start pointing blame at pu.i cant wait for the day honda leave red bull.

You are misinterpreting and fabricating things...

[Wouter]

One thing I had forgotten is that SC fest in the sprint neutralized any ERS advantage RB may have. You can recharge without penalty during the safety cars.

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Tbh I don't think there is an ERS advantage anymore. Seems Merc and Ferrari have advanced in that regard over the last 6 months

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The straight are shorter the just a series of corners.the competition is cripping in i guess is time to start pointing blame at pu.
i cant wait for the day honda leave red bull.

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Excuse me?!

[AR3-GP]

Well done Max. 14th win of the season.

Perez getting slower and slower.

Only real worry is that McLaren were very quick again. They were probably the quicker car unless Max had a lot of pace in reserve - in clear air Lando lapped ~3 tenths quicker than Max on average

It's just sprint weekend blues. Their pace on Friday was ahead of everyone else especially in sector 1. Track changed from friday to saturday to sunday and probably pushed them out of the window a little bit but not enough to be overcome in the GP. Mclaren seemed to get faster without changes to the cars. Still, Max made it look easy and Max wasn't complaining at all on the radio. Not once did he complain about anything handling wise. He was still setting fastest laps of the race in all stints, did the fastest lap of the race, did not have a single track limits violation and did not put a wheel out of the racing line all day. It was an incredibly calculated drive.

As for Perez....well...that's a different issue entirely...

I''m not saying the margin was big like Suzuka, but not every weekend can be like Suzuka/Spa.

[Bill]

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Tbh I don't think there is an ERS advantage anymore. Seems Merc and Ferrari have advanced in that regard over the last 6 months

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The straight are shorter the just a series of corners.the competition is cripping in i guess is time to start pointing blame at pu.
i cant wait for the day honda leave red bull.

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Excuse me?!

i think some people here are just full of --- telemetry is available to all of us so people dont make up bs

[PierreW]

The late pitstops compared to the others made it look like the car was slower than it was. At the end, Max had fresh tyres and was easily able to set the fastest lap. The entire strategy was not to open a gap, which is useless in case of safety car, but to cover this risk by staying with the freshest tyres compared to the competition.

Conservative and boring strategy but very effective. The mandated tyre duration also helped the competition, we know that the Mclaren tend to eat their tyres faster than the RB. It was nullified today.

[chrisc90]

Max did say that in his podium interview. Their car is designed to look after the tyre and today it couldnt.

[chrisc90]

Horner: "We urgently need him to find his form" (on checo) They having a chat later about what was causing the track limits issues.

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Horner: "We urgently need him to find his form" (on checo)

Damn that's pretty damning already

[PierreW]

That's honest. Formula 1 is a ultra competitive competition. Red Bull can't accept that Perez underperform so much. His start of the season saves him because he has solid chances to finish the season number two and it would be hard to replace him if he finish second, he has a lot of sponsor and popularity in Mexico.

But they have to make sure he will be competitive next year for the championship. I doubt he will be renewed in any case but he will probably be the second driver for 2024.

[chrisc90]

Horner: "We urgently need him to find his form" (on checo)

Damn that's pretty damning already

I think the team know, its just a case of presenting a decent case to the media at the minute. In house they know the real situation.

I give Perez until the end of the season to improve and take P2 in the WDC, otherwise he's out. They'll put him in the AT and bring danny ric back off loan and put him alongside Max. (i know they havent got the 'interview' they needed with danny after breaking his hand and being able to show his worth for half the season.

[Juzh]

Hamilton will eat perez up before the end, I'm 98% certain. He simply does not have the pace. I don't understand what's going on with him, he's not "that" slow. Maybe he's mentally completely checked out and just doesnt give a toss, or maybe in some wild case he already knows he's out after 2023?

[AR3-GP]

Verstappen's fast lap attempt was not a real fast lap attempt actually:

Far from it:



Look at how much more speed the Ferrari carries in all of the high speed corners. Max did not try at all. He just had the DRS on that lap that was otherwise not in a hurry. Look how much more grip he has in the low speed compared to Leclerc, then try and explain why Leclerc is so much faster in the high speed. It's not a fast lap attempt. He's lifting and coasting. This is no push lap.

[PierreW]

Hamilton will eat perez up before the end, I'm 98% certain. He simply does not have the pace. I don't understand what's going on with him, he's not "that" slow. Maybe he's mentally completely checked out and just doesnt give a toss, or maybe in some wild case he already knows he's out after 2023?

30 points in 5 races is still a lot when you don't win races. Max and the McLaren can salvage Perez's position if he doesn't do it himself.

Mexico will be big for him, a good performance here would reset his mind.