2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

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Well if somehow Verstappen hangs on to the lead past the 1st corner I think he can pull away from the Mercedes. It will be very interesting to see if Hamilton can win from 3rd or if Verstappen's Red Bull has what it takes to win in a straight up dogfight against both Mercedes. Gasly should worry about getting mugged by the McLarens at the start, Norris has been on fire this weekend.

This weekend will validate everything, if Verstappen wins and Hamilton comes 3rd, which is very possible given the circumstances, then it's game on. 3 wins and the Red Bull still improves with half the season to go. Cutting the lead by 11 points to Hamilton would put it at 51 points, with 9 rounds to go. With the car improving all the time, and the Red Bull capable of challenging for wins in all circumstances, it's still possible. Again it would be one of the greatest comebacks in the history of the sport, greater than Raikkonen's 2007 comeback fight.
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Datco wrote:
03 Aug 2019, 16:11
Oh yesssss

Merc has rear gunner, Ferrari has rear gunner, but none for Max. It's going to tough strategy wise.
Starting on mediums, just build a gap to come out in clear air, and pray there are no safety cars. If there is a safety car, pit, if there is a virtual safety car pit. Unless of course you just pitted. That's pretty much the only strategy short of go fast, look after the tires, and the equipment, and bring it home.

The start and turn 1 will be crucial, but one should not take their pace for granted. You just keep pounding away at those laps, don't get too carried away, and if everyone does their job the way they're capable of, a good result will come.
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Max had the same speed of Bot ar S2 but faster in S3 , it means RB setup secured the required downforce to achieve pole. However Max in S1 had the same time as Fer & Bot .. It means a lot for the Engine side.
Now I believe in competing for WDC after Spec4 .
It gonna be an awesome job for the team.
If Max wants to compete for WDC , he should drive free-error tomorrow and secure the win .. Then we have summerbreak to find how we could secured WDC for him . Just tomorrow win.

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Amazing stuff! Matching Ferrari in s1 and merc the rest. The car is coming together with the PU with it!

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Mercedes missed their window in signing Max. There is no good reason for him to consider leaving now, what a combination Red Bull and Honda have put together. For proper context, this is year one of the partnership and they're a well oiled machine already. The drivers title isn't over yet..
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Ground Effect wrote:
03 Aug 2019, 16:34
Mercedes missed their window in signing Max. There is no good reason for him to consider leaving now, what a combination Red Bull and Honda have put together. For proper context, this is year one of the partnership and their a well oiled machine already. The drivers title isn't over yet..
Verstappen is going to feel the same way Marquez feels in the Honda Moto GP.
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Ground Effect wrote:
03 Aug 2019, 16:34
Mercedes missed their window in signing Max. There is no good reason for him to consider leaving now, what a combination Red Bull and Honda have put together. For proper context, this is year one of the partnership and they're a well oiled machine already. The drivers title isn't over yet..
Don't rule out Merc and especially Totto to try even if it means to destabilize RBR. Expect some complaints to fia regarding the car too.

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Beat all Merc, all Fer in dry. Fantastic achievemnet! What a talent as Max and what a great job on the engine side! Congratulation for the whole team!
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Some in here seem to forget that Red Bull-Honda has a penalty to take and start from the back...The WDC is out of the question for Max...maybe even for Bottas by now! Hamilton isn't idiot at all...he didn't lose to Ferrari and Vettel the last 2 years when they had a car that was faster in many occasions! Red Bull is still a bit off being so close to Mercedes as Ferrari was in 2017-2018!
I think that it's more track specific wins with weather and strategy playing into their hands the last 4 races! (Of course both RB and Max did an outstanding job in Austria and Hockenheim) And then Red Bull always was fast around Hungaroring...so it doesn't seem weird they took pole!
Still really happy for them and in particular Honda after all those hard years with McLaren! I hope they can get even better and challenge even at Spa and Monza where they may be behind...but again i believe WDC is out of the question for 2019!
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Ok guys, start the prayer for a good start and first laps (break DRS) . Together with racepace and strategy it is going to be vital to turning this superb quali into a win as opposed to ‘just’ a podium or worse
True GOATs don’t need the help of superior material to win.

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AMG.Tzan wrote:
03 Aug 2019, 17:25
Some in here seem to forget that Red Bull-Honda has a penalty to take and start from the back...The WDC is out of the question for Max...maybe even for Bottas by now! Hamilton isn't idiot at all...he didn't lose to Ferrari and Vettel the last 2 years when they had a car that was faster in many occasions! Red Bull is still a bit off being so close to Mercedes as Ferrari was in 2017-2018!
I think that it's more track specific wins with weather and strategy playing into their hands the last 4 races! (Of course both RB and Max did an outstanding job in Austria and Hockenheim) And then Red Bull always was fast around Hungaroring...so it doesn't seem weird they took pole!
Still really happy for them and in particular Honda after all those hard years with McLaren! I hope they can get even better and challenge even at Spa and Monza where they may be behind...but again i believe WDC is out of the question for 2019!
I would think so too, but they are taking the penalty in Monza. Probably a Ferrari 1-2 anyway and 4 at best for Verstappen.

Starting from the back 4-5 is just as possible.

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godlameroso wrote:
03 Aug 2019, 16:24
Well if somehow Verstappen hangs on to the lead past the 1st corner I think he can pull away from the Mercedes. It will be very interesting to see if Hamilton can win from 3rd or if Verstappen's Red Bull has what it takes to win in a straight up dogfight against both Mercedes. Gasly should worry about getting mugged by the McLarens at the start, Norris has been on fire this weekend.

This weekend will validate everything, if Verstappen wins and Hamilton comes 3rd, which is very possible given the circumstances, then it's game on. 3 wins and the Red Bull still improves with half the season to go. Cutting the lead by 11 points to Hamilton would put it at 51 points, with 9 rounds to go. With the car improving all the time, and the Red Bull capable of challenging for wins in all circumstances, it's still possible. Again it would be one of the greatest comebacks in the history of the sport, greater than Raikkonen's 2007 comeback fight.
McLaren starting on soft will give them and edge.

Oh and hats off.. you were right about RBR's quali pace.

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Penalties means nothing in an era of Drs Max lost his front row start in Germany and Austria and still won the race . They no question he will fight for the championship

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AMG.Tzan wrote:
03 Aug 2019, 17:25
Some in here seem to forget that Red Bull-Honda has a penalty to take and start from the back...The WDC is out of the question for Max...maybe even for Bottas by now! Hamilton isn't idiot at all...he didn't lose to Ferrari and Vettel the last 2 years when they had a car that was faster in many occasions! Red Bull is still a bit off being so close to Mercedes as Ferrari was in 2017-2018!
I think that it's more track specific wins with weather and strategy playing into their hands the last 4 races! (Of course both RB and Max did an outstanding job in Austria and Hockenheim) And then Red Bull always was fast around Hungaroring...so it doesn't seem weird they took pole!
Still really happy for them and in particular Honda after all those hard years with McLaren! I hope they can get even better and challenge even at Spa and Monza where they may be behind...but again i believe WDC is out of the question for 2019!
The difference between Ferrari and Red Bull is that Red Bull is better operationally as a team and Verstappen is the best driver on the grid. Maybe there's very little chance to win the driver's championship, but it's there. The car keeps improving, faster than Mercedes, and this increases the pressure on them, and the possibility of mistakes. Like Mike Tyson said, everyone has a plan until you get punched in the mouth.
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Talking about 2019 WDC we should talk about luck too. Car is ok, engine is ok. If luck is on our side winning 2019 season is possible. All these years luck has been on Lewis's side. It's time for change now...