2024 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

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diffuser wrote:
22 Aug 2024, 19:05
ispano6 wrote:
22 Aug 2024, 17:52
diffuser wrote:
21 Aug 2024, 07:39


Nope, rules say the ICE connection to the gearbox is standard. You could connect the Merc, McLaren or Ferrari gearbox to it. Of course once you get past the connection to the ICE, you can do what you want with the gearbox sizing. The gearbox connections to the rear suspension are specific to the team though.
Nope? Honda didn't design their own engine block? Ok. We can end discussion here.
The "Nope" refers to them NOT redesigning the block for RBR, not that they didn't "design it". It was still the same ICE they had just finished completely redesigning when they were still with McLaren. They of course made fixes and performance improvements but it was NOT redesigned from the ground up.

Prior to the 2017 season, the PU token regs prevented Honda from redesigning the whole PU. For example, lets say you want to redesign the block but in order to make the block design perfect you need to change how it connected to the heads, well if you didn't have enough tokens, you could NOT change the block and the heads. You had to change the block but keep everything that connected to the heads the same. It was a very difficult process if you wanted to make any major design changes. Once it was announced they were going to remove the token system for 2017 season, Honda completely redesigned the PU from A-Z. That of course led to a ton of NEW reliability problems that took them about 2 - 3 years to work out.
My response to you was for the comment on your stance on Honda. You seemed to have an issue with them teaming up with AMR as being some kind of weaker link? Compared to Mercedes powerunits?

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Elite wrote:
22 Aug 2024, 12:13
KimiRai wrote:
20 Aug 2024, 20:18
GoranF1 wrote:
20 Aug 2024, 19:44
Hopefully this is fake.....

https://lux.carmagazine.tv/my-son-stay- ... t-phucdat/
It's fake, probably AI. Broken english. Same website says AM fired Alonso :lol:

https://i.imgur.com/gMhyUdS.png

What I find funny is how you ended up there :D
Maybe they were watching naughty videos :lol: :lol:

Some of the links with photos on the top of that website were a bit disgusting :?
You probably just doubled his clicks saying that :D
When arguing with a fool, be sure the other person is not doing the same thing.

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Ngl I thought we would have seen a side pod inlet change by now. Swear we’re one of the few teams that Hasn’t changed yet

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ispano6 wrote:
22 Aug 2024, 19:44
diffuser wrote:
22 Aug 2024, 19:05
ispano6 wrote:
22 Aug 2024, 17:52


Nope? Honda didn't design their own engine block? Ok. We can end discussion here.
The "Nope" refers to them NOT redesigning the block for RBR, not that they didn't "design it". It was still the same ICE they had just finished completely redesigning when they were still with McLaren. They of course made fixes and performance improvements but it was NOT redesigned from the ground up.

Prior to the 2017 season, the PU token regs prevented Honda from redesigning the whole PU. For example, lets say you want to redesign the block but in order to make the block design perfect you need to change how it connected to the heads, well if you didn't have enough tokens, you could NOT change the block and the heads. You had to change the block but keep everything that connected to the heads the same. It was a very difficult process if you wanted to make any major design changes. Once it was announced they were going to remove the token system for 2017 season, Honda completely redesigned the PU from A-Z. That of course led to a ton of NEW reliability problems that took them about 2 - 3 years to work out.
My response to you was for the comment on your stance on Honda. You seemed to have an issue with them teaming up with AMR as being some kind of weaker link? Compared to Mercedes powerunits?
nope, I think they have every opportunity to be as good or better than anyone else.

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SSJ4 wrote:
22 Aug 2024, 19:53
Ngl I thought we would have seen a side pod inlet change by now. Swear we’re one of the few teams that Hasn’t changed yet
I don't think there is a big return on that and there is a large cost to it. I think AMR's inlets are still some of the smallest and usually run the least amount of cooling vents. So I'm not sure the RBR or Ferrari approach is a big improvement. AMR have bigger fish to fry ATM.

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diffuser wrote:
22 Aug 2024, 21:21
SSJ4 wrote:
22 Aug 2024, 19:53
Ngl I thought we would have seen a side pod inlet change by now. Swear we’re one of the few teams that Hasn’t changed yet
I don't think there is a big return on that and there is a large cost to it. I think AMR's inlets are still some of the smallest and usually run the least amount of cooling vents. So I'm not sure the RBR or Ferrari approach is a big improvement. AMR have bigger fish to fry ATM.
I since last year summer,now the first time(Hungary) when I believe and see that the Aston found the right path and really understand what went wrong. I don't know if is something to do with Newey factory visit 🤔 or just simply they learned from faults and closed out things. I except a much stronger and ballanced 2nd half from Aston to beat Ferrari on the track.

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SSJ4 wrote:
22 Aug 2024, 19:53
Ngl I thought we would have seen a side pod inlet change by now. Swear we’re one of the few teams that Hasn’t changed yet
There are rumours of new sidepods coming in the next races (probably Baku or Singapore), but not sure whether the inlet itself will change. Last year they didn't modify the inlets at all during the season so who knows.
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ngl im less confident than before after seeing what other teams have brought along with them for this weekend

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Fernando was improving but aborted the lap and then couldnt do another try due to traffic sadly

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First two sector were solid from fernando. Losing 3 tenths in final sector is interesting though

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How was race pace?

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According to The Race Newey is yet to formally accept the offer made by Stroll, no contract is believed to have been signed so far (so reports from Italy that he had already signed could be fake)

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/adri ... structure/

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Big Gun wrote:
23 Aug 2024, 17:14
How was race pace?
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Maybe it's not related, but interesting that since Spa top speed isn't as good as it used to be earlier in the season. More loaded setups perhaps, which could help with tyre wear?

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