Vettel vs Ricciardo 2014

[Sammyg]

Daniel posted his best time in the red bull on Hards. Vettel did his on Mediums.

That's why the official statement from red bull is that Daniel was quicker. Put Daniel on the softer compound and he beats Vettels time.

[CHT]

Daniel posted his best time in the red bull on Hards. Vettel did his on Mediums.

That's why the official statement from red bull is that Daniel was quicker. Put Daniel on the softer compound and he beats Vettels time.

Yes, Danial will win the WDC next year.

[LionKing]

Daniel posted his best time in the red bull on Hards. Vettel did his on Mediums.

That's why the official statement from red bull is that Daniel was quicker. Put Daniel on the softer compound and he beats Vettels time.

Where is this official statement?
I would like to read it too

[munudeges]

I thought it would be something like that. Well, in different conditions on different days I find it a bit tenuous, that's all I can say. If there was a string of consistent laps where everyone looked and said 'Wow!' that would be something. However, that didn't happen.

[rayden]

I wouldn't trust benson as far as I can throw him, but, Horner did say in a sky interview before the race yesterday that RIC was right on vettels pace at the YDT and his performance in that test was a major factor in the decision to sign him.
Take from that what you will.

[Sammyg]

Apologies as there wasn't a formal statement from Red Bull (my bad), however it was duly noted in an article by James Allan about Ricciardo's testing that day and looking at his times that he was super quick over a long run. The tyre management was exceptional and his times got better and better whilst others were not.

Red Bull have come out and said the same thing. That he was super quick and very impressive in that testing.

I have a list of everyones best times and what tyres they used at that YDT. Ricciardo was definitely on a harder compound so to be so close to Vettel's time is obviously very encouraging for him.

[raymondu999]

I wonder if they're basically looking for 2 fast drivers who can give telemetry for the car on-the-limit to help with the simulator correlations and car development data. I have heard good things about Ricciardo as well as Vettel's technical feedback. Perhaps Ricciardo is just meant to be a fast guy with good feedback, at least at the start?

[prince]

Red bull 2014 Driver pairing. I hope it won't be this way...

[rayden]

Mark has said on Sky that seb is off to Ferrari in 2 years.

I think they will give Dan a fair crack at #1 if that is the case.

[raymondu999]

Yep, as I said in the silly season thread - last year Seb curiously extended his ends-after-2014 contract to end after 2015, and Kimi is curiously signed to the same...

In fairness to Mark - he is speculating - he feels Ferrari would probably go for Vettel, rather than him knowing something we don't

[sknguy]

I wonder if they're basically looking for 2 fast drivers who can give telemetry for the car on-the-limit to help with the simulator correlations and car development data. I have heard good things about Ricciardo as well as Vettel's technical feedback. Perhaps Ricciardo is just meant to be a fast guy with good feedback, at least at the start?

I'm pretty sure I heard on a past broadcast that Ricciardo was a smooth driver? Not sure though... I suppose in the vein of a Button style of driving (slightly more aggressive though), and maybe a bit more similar to Vettel than Webber is. Haven't really seen much of his driving style though.

[raymondu999]

Ricciardo is quite a smooth driver. Not sure that that equates to being similar to Vettel though - Vettel drives quite sharp corners - later apexes, if you like. Smooth driver doesn't necessarily mean slow, mind you. You can be the fastest guy out there while being smooth.

I've also heard it theorised that a smooth driving style means that you have better data for car development, because everything is consistent and you can clearly see problems unadulterated (as opposed to having slides/abrupt movements "clutter" the data)

[sknguy]

Ricciardo is quite a smooth driver. Not sure that that equates to being similar to Vettel though - Vettel drives quite sharp corners - later apexes, if you like. Smooth driver doesn't necessarily mean slow, mind you. You can be the fastest guy out there while being smooth.

Sorry, I didn't mean he was similar to Vettel. I know Vettel can be pretty agressive with his car. I suppose when he's in tire management mode he relaxes his aggression just a wee.

I've also heard it theorised that a smooth driving style means that you have better data for car development, because everything is consistent and you can clearly see problems unadulterated (as opposed to having slides/abrupt movements "clutter" the data)

I suppose it is easier read data when someone tries to be more precise with the inputs, in terms of choosing and holding their lines and accelerating. I suspect this pairing could do nothing but maintain a good development program for Newey. Aside from being quick, Ricciardo seems a pretty level headed driver and does what's asked of him. We'll be able to pay more attention to him now.

[raymondu999]

What I find more interesting is that McLaren and Ferrari have lineups not known for qualifying well, but rather are known for good racing skills. Mercedes is a bit in the middle-ish. Red Bull is the one with the qualifying pair. It does perhaps indicate a trend that Red Bull would like to continue their "lead from pole" strategy of recent seasons, while others are still focusing on race day and (almost) brushing aside qualifying.

[JawsIX]

Just having a read of this old thread....i think it is fair to say a lot of people have been proved very wrong.