You’ve just completely contradicted yourself with that post.DChemTech wrote: ↑18 Apr 2021, 17:35Ironically, such a statement would likely also be made by the other team if the tables were turned. Maybe it would be nice to just accept most people here can be objective, and use that as a starting point in a discussion, instead of accusing one another of irrationality?El Scorchio wrote: ↑18 Apr 2021, 17:29It depends if you have the ability to be objective or not. Some of us do!
Thank you for stating the obvious.ispano6 wrote: ↑18 Apr 2021, 17:34Who said it should have been a VSC, the issue is the resetting of the field. Andreas Seidl wasn't happy about losing that place to Hamilton. HAM fans should just be happy Bottas and Russell caused an incident that played into Hamilton's hand. If there was no accident then Hamilton wouldn't be 1 point in the championship lead now would he!
Exactly.lh13 wrote: ↑18 Apr 2021, 17:34Nothing great, imo. But he got the job done, unlike his teammate in the same car, so good nonetheless.mistrx wrote: ↑18 Apr 2021, 17:30Sky team again talking up Ham's performance (why am I still surprised?). Not sure how can you call Ham's performance good today.
Made silly mistakes, but just got huge dose of luck. All overtakes after the restart done using DRS and against slower cars. Or did I miss something form the 'allegedly' great performance?
If yes, then please amuse me.
I don’t understand why the commentators try to create drama somewhere the drivers clearly don’t think there is. I mean, I know why, but I hate it.grubschumi13 wrote: ↑18 Apr 2021, 17:38To be fair I think Russell was to blame for that crash. Certainly Bottas did not do anything wrong. Surely Russell should have conceded that position. It was a Mercedes he was racing after all.
Though what is annoying is how the sky team are trying to pin Lewis' mistake on Russell. that is just a bit silly trying to apportion blame.
George- You KO Val?Hoffman900 wrote: ↑18 Apr 2021, 17:42I don’t understand why the commentators try to create drama somewhere the drivers clearly don’t think there is. I mean, I know why, but I hate it.grubschumi13 wrote: ↑18 Apr 2021, 17:38To be fair I think Russell was to blame for that crash. Certainly Bottas did not do anything wrong. Surely Russell should have conceded that position. It was a Mercedes he was racing after all.
Though what is annoying is how the sky team are trying to pin Lewis' mistake on Russell. that is just a bit silly trying to apportion blame.
I think they’re both a fault. This is partly the fault of DRS where the closing speed is unnaturally higher.
Happy to commend him for jobs well done, such as his work in bahrain, today not so much.foxmulder_ms wrote: ↑18 Apr 2021, 17:26Juzh wrote: ↑18 Apr 2021, 17:21Raikkonen spun before restart got underway so he restarted in P8. Perez was another free position. So he overtook 5 drivers on his way to P2. Some of those cars were seconds per lap slower than him, and he passed almost all cars with a zero skill DRS fly-by. Not least in a car that looked insanely fast on straight, gaining up to 1s under drs.El Scorchio wrote: ↑18 Apr 2021, 17:10
Ninth to second in about 20 laps is a great recovery, whatever spin you want to put on it. Sure he got a big slice of fortune today but he still had to pass a lot of cars to regain second.
That horrendous race start and mid-race mistake pretty much made this race one of hamilton's worst ones in ages, so how people can say it was a good drive in any kind of way is baffling.
It is pity you cannot enjoy watching GOAT. You will miss him in couple of years..
Some people can be dense, like not understanding that some flawed rules sometimes are exploited, you know, like track limits and free unlapping during red flags.mkay wrote: ↑18 Apr 2021, 17:40Thank you for stating the obvious.ispano6 wrote: ↑18 Apr 2021, 17:34Who said it should have been a VSC, the issue is the resetting of the field. Andreas Seidl wasn't happy about losing that place to Hamilton. HAM fans should just be happy Bottas and Russell caused an incident that played into Hamilton's hand. If there was no accident then Hamilton wouldn't be 1 point in the championship lead now would he!
Strangely, I didn't see anyone complain about the red flags at Mugello, or the VSC when VET won in Australia 2018 thanks to it.
Seems Ferrari did the right thing. They have all the telemetry.Schuttelberg wrote: ↑18 Apr 2021, 17:11Very lucky day for Lewis. Really, as a Seb fan, I no longer know what to wish for. Every race is just painful. Testing, qualifying, races. It's just all the same!
I dont think i have; unfortunate you read it that way. I am just saying saying the objectivity- asymmetry you are implying does not exist, in my view.El Scorchio wrote: ↑18 Apr 2021, 17:39You’ve just completely contradicted yourself with that post.DChemTech wrote: ↑18 Apr 2021, 17:35Ironically, such a statement would likely also be made by the other team if the tables were turned. Maybe it would be nice to just accept most people here can be objective, and use that as a starting point in a discussion, instead of accusing one another of irrationality?El Scorchio wrote: ↑18 Apr 2021, 17:29
It depends if you have the ability to be objective or not. Some of us do!